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Old 01-31-2003, 04:11 AM
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The two albums after TITN to me are totally uninspired and i.m.o. mediocre and both to me don't count as FM albums. Yeah of
course officially they are and I know that a lot of people here on the board disagree with that evaluation. But me and some
friends were fans back in 87 and completely lost interest in the group after that breakup. The sound and the style is a bands
calling card not the name. And as Seteca says- LB made that sound most people (the broader audience) identify the group with. It was their good right to try to go on without LB but it didn`t attract me anymore. The Time thing then... well somebody said sth. about revival bands ;-) Even funny how they tried to replace Stevie with a SN lookalike contest candidate. Hoping not insider and by the way listener and buyer wouldn`t see there's someone new...?

The Stevie leaving thing... That would be the groups end also. No doubt. But I don´t think LB would be part of that 3 man show still naming FM

As rumours were spread the GOS thing would turn into a FM album I was about "oh no don't let it be true". I would rather have had an entire LB CD, some of these songs now get lost...

I certainly also would have been glad to see another FM album as I do now, but in addition not instead of...

As it is now pretty unlikely to get LB music from a solo effort anymore I`m fine with this solution now.

Another thought on Stevies work. I don`t see that her voice is bad or has been bad since 82 like it is often stated here. The sound of her voice makes her uniqueness. That someones voice alters within the years does not mean it gets worse. Singing out of tune is bad, but on the studio versions you really couldn`t say that and I doubt, that this is the case on the recent live shows...? As a huge LB fan I would rather call performances like "here comes the sun" extremely tacky even though he normally is a great live performer.
The only thing about Stevie is... I would appreciate her doing also songs written by somebody else like she did with "Seven wonders". She offers some great material but after 4-5 songs per CD there seems to be a lack of new melodic ideas or writing inspiration. So this would be a good addition.
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Old 01-31-2003, 04:19 AM
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for me personally, if Stevie left the band...I don't think I would be interested in them as much as I am now. Don't get me wrong, I love Lindsey and greatly admire his work, but Stevie was the whole reason that I became a fan of FM. It is because of her that I first noticed FM, and the song Gold Dust Woman is why I went out and bought Rumours last year (my first FM album). So frankly...without Stevie FM would be a bit boring for me.

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Old 01-31-2003, 06:58 AM
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Do you mean as lovers?
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Old 01-31-2003, 07:00 AM
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(That's in reference to becca's earlier comment concerning Lindsey and Bob Welch.)
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Old 01-31-2003, 09:56 AM
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I'm going go jump back in on this one. I want to be fair.

Without Stevie Nicks, singing well or poorly, Fleetwood Mac just isn't the same. She does add an aura of dreamy glamour to the band. That is undeniable. There hasn't been a Fleetwood Mac with Lindsey and no Stevie, so we really don't know what would happen there. There has been a Fleetwood Mac with Stevie and no Lindsey, and it was somewhat successful.

I still thing Sheryl Crow would be a good addition if Stevie were to leave. Sheryl is a very talented lyricist, a multi-instrumentalist and she has a great stage presence. Her sardonic lyrics really speak to me. I still get a kick out of remembering the whole nation singing "All I Wanna Do." I wonder how many people really paid attention to what Sheryl was trying to convey with the song. But no matter, because it was such a catchy tune and it was fun.
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Old 01-31-2003, 11:31 AM
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If Stevie left, I think there would soon be a different fan base. Stevie for whatever reason has always been a big drawing card for the Mac and there are those who only like the band because of Stevie and you'd lose those folks. Therefore her departure would have a serious impact on the band.

As far as I am concerned Lindsey is the irreplaceable one if anyone is. When he's not there the band has a different sound and I just don't like it as well. Not that Rick, Billy and Bob were any slouches on the guitar-it's just that I like Lindsey's sound better.

The only other incarnation I like as much as Lindsey's incarnation is Peter Green's. I'd love to see the two of them play together.
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Old 01-31-2003, 12:14 PM
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I think most people are simply not interested in Fleetwood Mac without Stevie or Lindsey. I think that has been proven. It dosn't matter who you put in there, it won't be the same. Thats what the core of the fan base remember. They remember the glory days in the seventies, all the drama and heart ache.
Also Fleetwood Mac will never be hudge again like they where in the seventies, things have changed. They will do well with the new record, but never to the degree of the seventies fame.
For me it was Stevie way back in 76 that brought me in.
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Old 01-31-2003, 01:15 PM
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There hasn't been a Fleetwood Mac with Lindsey and no Stevie, so we really don't know what would happen there.
And there never will be, IMO. I agree with Stefan that Lindsey wouldn't want to be a part of that.

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I still thin[k] Sheryl Crow would be a good addition if Stevie were to leave.
I like Sheryl too, but I would see that as FM trying desperately to maintain itself by hopping on the coattails of an already successful musician. I think it would be lame and sad. And I can only imagine the power struggles she and Lindsey would get into regarding production...Let's just say I doubt she would step back and let Lindsey "work his magic" on her songs.

I like previous incarnations of FM, but once Stevie and Lindsey came, it changed everything. They are now both irreplacable, IMO. Without them, Fleetwood Mac fades into the woodwork as "just another band that used to be popular." With them, they've still got IT.

(This next part is directed generally, and not to a specific poster on this thread) BTW, anyone who is upset because Lindsey "gave up" his solo album as a sacrifice for FM needs to understand that Lindsey's album was NEVER gonna happen otherwise! It's this or nothing, folks! Unless you're content to cling to CD-Rs of demos that haven't been "bastardized" by Fleetwood Mac. ::rolls eyes::
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Old 01-31-2003, 01:21 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sodascouts
I like Sheryl too, but I would see that as FM trying desperately to maintain itself by hopping on the coattails of an already successful musician. I think it would be lame and sad.

Yeah, I know what you mean. It would come across that way. But Sheryl has a huge fan base, so the album would sell.

BTW, anyone who is upset because Lindsey "gave up" his solo album as a sacrifice for FM needs to understand that Lindsey's album was NEVER gonna happen otherwise! It's this or nothing, folks! Unless you're content to cling to CD-Rs of demos that haven't been "bastardized" by Fleetwood Mac. ::rolls eyes::

Again, I concur.

I better cut this out, or people will start thinking I've been possessed by some agreeable, kind-hearted soul.
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Old 01-31-2003, 01:34 PM
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Stevie is NOT the "be all-end all" of Fleetwood Mac, neither is Lindsey...there was a Fleetwood Mac before them, there was a Fleetwood Mac "after" them, whether Mick wants to admit it or not. That they're once again Fleetwood Mac members is a sad, sad reality. Just means that they're nothing without Fleetwood Mac. And, the ultmate in abhorrance is that Mick buys into the fact that he, himself, doesn't believe that Fleetwood Mac could live without Lindsey & Stevie...ultimately, Peter Green did the right thing and got the hell away from Mick and his viewing everything "Fleetwood Mac" through "green" glasses, instead of the music.

For the fame & fortune that coincided with Lindsey & Stevie joining Fleetwood Mac, in a whole plethora of ways it was the worst thing that could've happened to Fleetwood Mac.
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Old 01-31-2003, 01:41 PM
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For the fame & fortune that coincided with Lindsey & Stevie joining Fleetwood Mac, in a whole plethora of ways it was the worst thing that could've happened to Fleetwood Mac.
It was the best of times... it was the worst of times.


Wow... I really like that! I should write a book, and use that for the first line of the first chapter!



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Old 01-31-2003, 01:48 PM
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I'd really hate it if, Stevie left.(I alos hate the fact that Chris has left)
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Old 01-31-2003, 02:10 PM
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I agree with MacFan, at first I was not really that upset when Chris decided to retire, I had always favored Stevie's and some of Lindsey's music over Chris and it was what she wanted and I commende in thought, Mick, John, Stevie and Lindsey for not pressuring her into doing something she didn't want.

but I was really saddened when a new promo pic hit the Internet with just the four, it's posted here in this forum somewhere. It was like it hit home, no Christine sitting towards the left back stage, posed like a queen singing out her ballads. and no Everywhere or Songbird or You Make Loving Fun in concert. no quickie bathroom breaks for me!! It's depressing!!!

I love seeing Stevie solo and I would love to have purchased Lindsey's Gift of Screws and seen him in solo concert but no matter what the debate, the FM stage has always felt a little emptier without former members of the band be it Peter Green, Bob Welch, Rick Vito....and now Christine

I've experienced it first hand before, I was at a Tango concert and Lindsey was missed...
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I agree with MacFan, at first I was not really that upset when Chris decided to retire, I had always favored Stevie's and some of Lindsey's music over Chris
Same here. I was really shocked when I found out that Chris had left(I think it was before I became a fan)
I have always prefered Lindsey's and stevie's music over Chris, but I love the songs that Chris wrote.
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The Rumours line-up definitely has a certain chemistry between the five...and I love them all when they're together. But I don't think I'd be in any hurry to rush out and buy any solo albums by Mick or John or even Christine...although I'd eventually get around to buying Christine's someday, lol. I don't think ANY of the five are replaceable within the group. But solo, I love (most of) Stevie's and (most of) Lindsey's work just as much as I do FM's with the two of them in it. Now, lol, if the two of them were to start work on BuckinghamNicks II.....I think I'd kiss the moon. The other incarnations of FM just don't hold the same appeal, for me, although I certainly like a lot of it. I just wouldn't rate it as among my favorite music.

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