New Stevie Drawing...

LiamMcConville · #1 03-18-2008, 11:35 PM

I have a friend who is an incredible artist. His name is Conan, and I couldn't pass up the oportunity to have our girl drawn professionally. I am paying $220.00 for a 17" by 22" drawing.

I know some of you might find the double-chin a bit of a turn off, but this is my all time favorite photo, and I just couldn't choose another.

Here is the first progress shot:

And the original of course:

vivfox · #2 03-19-2008, 12:00 AM

I'm sure it's gonna turn out beautiful Liam. Do you have a special place in your house to hang it when it's finished? Have you thought of what type of frame you will use? I'd love to see the final product.

LiamMcConville · #3 03-19-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

I'm sure it's gonna turn out beautiful Liam. Do you have a special place in your house to hang it when it's finished? Have you thought of what type of frame you will use? I'd love to see the final product.

I think so too!

And yes, as of right now I plan on hanging it behind my bedroom door. The segment of wall is the perfect size...I'd post a picture if I had access to a camera.

I haven't looked at frames yet, I'll do that after I get the drawing.

But I'll surely post the finished product.

Phoenix · #4 03-19-2008, 12:22 AM

That really is good. I think that is one of THE ONLY artist representations that I really like.

GarboSpeaks! · #5 03-19-2008, 03:04 AM

That artist has MAD talent! Can't wait to see what it looks like all done! It's beautiful so far.

Sanne2 · #6 03-19-2008, 04:41 AM

Wow Liam, it looks amazing!

paleshadow · #7 03-19-2008, 08:02 AM

This doesn't really look like it was drawn by hand to me at all. It really looks like something done on a computer to be honest. The details in the completed sections are identical to the original, I mean even the veins on Stevie's wrist, and on the baby's breath. Not to be cynical, but I would suspect that the original photo was imported into a program like Photo Shop or something, the color was removed, contrast adjusted and a filter was used to soften the lines a bit. Also, it just looks odd the way they have completed whole sections of the drawing in complete detail while leaving the rest barely touched. I've never seen an artist work like that. I could be wrong I guess. Just wouldn't want anyone to pay over $200 for what they think is a hand drawing, when it may be something many people could do with a computer and the right software.

dnightshade · #8 03-19-2008, 10:40 AM

I think it's great! Looks like a charcoal drawing. I can understand what paleshadow is saying about it being photoshopped (so many things are now) but I actually know someone who is that gifted his work looks fake but it's not ~ I've been present when he's started a project so I know it's legit.

LiamMcConville · #9 03-19-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by paleshadow

This doesn't really look like it was drawn by hand to me at all. It really looks like something done on a computer to be honest. The details in the completed sections are identical to the original, I mean even the veins on Stevie's wrist, and on the baby's breath. Not to be cynical, but I would suspect that the original photo was imported into a program like Photo Shop or something, the color was removed, contrast adjusted and a filter was used to soften the lines a bit. Also, it just looks odd the way they have completed whole sections of the drawing in complete detail while leaving the rest barely touched. I've never seen an artist work like that. I could be wrong I guess. Just wouldn't want anyone to pay over $200 for what they think is a hand drawing, when it may be something many people could do with a computer and the right software.

I appreciate your concern. But completely trust Conan, and I know that he is talented enough to draw what I posted. If you would like to see some of his other work just as comparison, you can see his gallery here:

http://lordavatarz.deviantart.com/gallery/

Ghost_Tracker · #10 03-19-2008, 02:31 PM

NAAAAH, I don't really see the resemblance between the two.

KIDDING!!! KIDDING!!!

Your friend is very talented, and I think he really "nailed" it! It'll be awesome to see the final product.

Red · #11 03-19-2008, 02:37 PM

I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I have to agree with Paleshadow on this one. This is definitely recreated in Photoshop or a program like it. Artists will always have their different methods of finishing a piece but this does not feel legitimately rendered, particularly with the baby's breath. And anyone that was at this level of skill would be charging a hell of a lot more than $220 for an original piece at that scale. Again, I really don't mean to bum you out but I really don't think this is legit.

LiamMcConville · #12 03-19-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Red

I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I have to agree with Paleshadow on this one. This is definitely recreated in Photoshop or a program like it. Artists will always have their different methods of finishing a piece but this does not feel legitimately rendered, particularly with the baby's breath. And anyone that was at this level of skill would be charging a hell of a lot more than $220 for an original piece at that scale. Again, I really don't mean to bum you out but I really don't think this is legit.

I'm not going to argue.

paleshadow · #13 03-19-2008, 03:54 PM

Liam, really just trying to save you some money. I used photoshop to check this out and it's definitely not a drawing. I combined the original picture with the "drawing" you have and sized them so that they are the same proportions and then overlayed them. You can see that the lines match up perfectly. I don't care how good of an artist you are, you wouldn't get the lines identical. Here is a copy of both images overlayed with the opacity adjusted so you can see both images lining up. Anyone who doubts this can try it themselves, it's pretty easy. I looked at the artists page, but without seeing the images he rendered the other "drawings" from, you can't tell if those are legit either. There is nothing wrong with enjoying this type of art, or even buying it, but to spend 200 bucks for something that claims to be a drawing, when you can get this kind of thing for 20 bucks at six flags or the mall, or I'll do it for you for 100 bucks and with the other 100 you can get another one. Just saying.

LiamMcConville · #14 03-19-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by paleshadow

Liam, really just trying to save you some money. I used photoshop to check this out and it's definitely not a drawing. I combined the original picture with the "drawing" you have and sized them so that they are the same proportions and then overlayed them. You can see that the lines match up perfectly. I don't care how good of an artist you are, you wouldn't get the lines identical. Here is a copy of both images overlayed with the opacity adjusted so you can see both images lining up. Anyone who doubts this can try it themselves, it's pretty easy. I looked at the artists page, but without seeing the images he rendered the other "drawings" from, you can't tell if those are legit either. There is nothing wrong with enjoying this type of art, or even buying it, but to spend 200 bucks for something that claims to be a drawing, when you can get this kind of thing for 20 bucks at six flags or the mall, or I'll do it for you for 100 bucks and with the other 100 you can get another one. Just saying.

Well **** me! I sent him an email, we'll see if he comes clean...

Thank you though.

paleshadow · #15 03-19-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamMcConville

Well **** me! I sent him an email, we'll see if he comes clean...

Thank you though.

Even if he doesn't, I wouldn't give him $200, unless he is including a frame that costs $175. You mentioned that he is a friend, so hopefully it won't be a problem. If you want a nice Stevie drawing that's authentic, I'd check out Johannna Pieterman's site. I'm not sure if she does commissions, but you could check. Good luck!