Everybody Finds Out

[wolfontherun]

Originally Posted by David

I like it, too. It's pretty clean. But I have to throw in my hatred of Smile at You. Even if I had never heard the song in demo form, I'd still hate the 2003 job. Something's wrong with it technically. I think Rupert Hine, with his tin ear, must have snuck in & arranged & produced it. It has a lot of the same flaws in layering that Escape from Berlin or I Still Miss Someone does.

Please elaborate on the flaws of Berlin and Somebody. I always thought that Berlin was an exceptional song.

EFO is a very cool rocking song. Interesting that it does not sound at all like a FM song to me. Nor does it sound like a Stevie song. Was anyone else involved with producing this and was it an old song that they updated?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by wolfontherun

Please elaborate on the flaws of Berlin and Somebody. I always thought that Berlin was an exceptional song.

EFO is a very cool rocking song. Interesting that it does not sound at all like a FM song to me. Nor does it sound like a Stevie song. Was anyone else involved with producing this and was it an old song that they updated?

I agree that it really doesn't sound like an FM song. Michele

[LiamMcConville]

Originally Posted by wolfontherun

Please elaborate on the flaws of Berlin and Somebody. I always thought that Berlin was an exceptional song.

EFO is a very cool rocking song. Interesting that it does not sound at all like a FM song to me. Nor does it sound like a Stevie song. Was anyone else involved with producing this and was it an old song that they updated?

Wasn't Everybody Finds Out the Stevie demo they had Chris Lord Algae produce? Maybe they stuck with his general design for the song and just had it tweeked by whoever produced SYW (his name has escaped me.)

[danax6]

Originally Posted by LiamMcConville

whoever produced SYW (his name has escaped me.)

You mean that guy, eh, what's his name? It's on the tip of my tongue... damn. Oh, wait, Lindsey Buckingham?

[David]

Originally Posted by wolfontherun

Please elaborate on the flaws of Berlin and Somebody. I always thought that Berlin was an exceptional song.

I think the engineering is awful. At one poing, the gain even drops out. It's like a senior project for a college course in mixing technology.

[LiamMcConville]

Originally Posted by danax6

You mean that guy, eh, what's his name? It's on the tip of my tongue... damn. Oh, wait, Lindsey Buckingham?

A snarky comment from Vanessa? Well I NEVER!

Anyway, if Lindsey was the producer...That means Chris Lord Algae was the mixer?

[danax6]

Originally Posted by LiamMcConville

A snarky comment from Vanessa? Well I NEVER!

Anyway, if Lindsey was the producer...That means Chris Lord Algae was the mixer?

For one Stevie track. Mark Needham mixed the rest.

[wheart]

Without a doubt, Say You Will's finest moment. Production is killer, wonderful lyrics and Stevie's vocal is fierce. I love the "don't you know...don't you know" part towards the end...

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by SandyMac

I wish it was released on radio. Damn, can you imagine the music video to that song? It would have been fantastic given the right director/vision.

*falls over in a dead faint* That would have been an unbelievable video.

It's one of those songs where everything just fits together perfectly -- production, lyrics, vocal, music -- it all just clicks together like a jigsaw. It would have brought the house down live. It has that kind of darkness and energy that the original Smile at You had.

And those synths at the end just clinch it for me.

[tlssln]

[QUOTE=Richard B;737508]Lindsey gets hassled so much from folks who think he castrated 'Smile At You.' I have to disagree. First off, Stevie would never just let Lindsey to what he wanted with her song and just let it go if she truly didn't like it. They are "her children." Stevie is not in the same place now as she was when she started developing this song many (many) years ago. Stevie is not angry anymore, she is if anything reflective and a bit sleepy.

Stevie's not angry anymore? I don't know about that. But you're right that ultimately, she did let him do it since that's the version that ended up on the CD. I just wish she would have stuck to her guns and preserved the energy from the demo version because it had much more bite to it, which made the song a fan favorite in the first place.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Beachwood Mac

One of my favorites. They missed a great opportunity not releasing this as a single.

For those that don't already have these, here are a few alternate versions I had on my computer.

http://www.mediafire.com/?d4gmhvpiwz4
early mix #1

http://www.mediafire.com/?1jnj9vhsmvj
early mix #2

I also have the just the audio of EFO from the DVD. Since it was officially released I won't post it here but you can pm me and I will send you the link on mediafire.

Enjoy!

Terry

Hey Terry --

Thanks for adding to my music library.

(You're a pal!)

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by wheart

Without a doubt, Say You Will's finest moment. Production is killer, wonderful lyrics and Stevie's vocal is fierce. I love the "don't you know...don't you know" part towards the end...

I totally agree

[gretchen]

I love EFO!!!!!