Prince Charles calls for 'ban' on McDonald's

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by carrie721

i think that's the basis of it, yeah. so really, you could do it cheaply. but if you buy their special SBD frozen dinners & ****, then it gets expensive.

I honestly believe that a person cannot lose weight eating processed food, which is exactly what any type of frozen dinner is.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by amber

I've known a lot of people like you, they don't realize the delicious possibilities because they kind of already have a mindset about it, and/or they haven't really tried it. I spot them because they tend to use the phrase "twigs and berries", which is a scoffish term for things that are good for you and can be very delicious.

I do what I can, as far as eating healthy -- though certainly not as much as I could. Obviously.

I guess the old saying is true, you have to want to do something. Honest to God, Amber, I admit I am exceedingly stubborn when it comes to this stuff. I'm usually a pretty level-headed, rational person -- but when it comes to eating right and exercising, my mind screams "PUNISHMENT!!!"

I look at all the people who say, "ohh, I'd love to have a Big Mac -- but I can't because I'm watching what I eat," or "I'm so hungry for bread right now, but it's not allowed on my diet," and I think "no freakin' way -- I'm eating what I want and when I want it."
Which I know is not really the right attitude.

Anyway, like I said, I know that it's my fault that I've gained weight. I also know what I need to do to lose it. I'm just not in the mindframe right now to want to.

And I still think McDonald's doesn't need to be banned.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I do what I can, as far as eating healthy -- though certainly not as much as I could. Obviously.

I guess the old saying is true, you have to want to do something. Honest to God, Amber, I admit I am exceedingly stubborn when it comes to this stuff. I'm usually a pretty level-headed, rational person -- but when it comes to eating right and exercising, my mind screams "PUNISHMENT!!!"

I look at all the people who say, "ohh, I'd love to have a Big Mac -- but I can't because I'm watching what I eat," or "I'm so hungry for bread right now, but it's not allowed on my diet," and I think "no freakin' way -- I'm eating what I want and when I want it."
Which I know is not really the right attitude.

Anyway, like I said, I know that it's my fault that I've gained weight. I also know what I need to do to lose it. I'm just not in the mindframe right now to want to.

And I still think McDonald's doesn't need to be banned.

"no freakin' way -- I'm eating what I want and when I want it."

That's what I think almost all the time, too, and I kind of think in part it is the right attitude. The thing is wanting to eat different things. I don't eat things that are good for me that I don't like. Except, of course, for the unrefined Coconut Oil...
I mean, think about strawberries. Strawberries are SO GOOD, plus they're really good for you. Who wouldn't want to eat them? There is tons of food like that.
I'm lucky in that I like to exercise, and that I have to in order to get places ( ) but I still have to push myself to do it many times. And I eat like a poor white trash pig many times, as well. Last weekend most of my dietary intake was from the cheese and cracker and cookie groups. But I know that I also like to eat healthy food, so, you know, whatever.

And there is still overwhelming evidence that the entire natural world and humans would be way, way better off without McDonalds.

[HomerMcvie]

^^^Tru dat, BUT, we'd also be much better off without alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, and all illegal drugs(not even mentioning all the foods that are terrible for us). Where do you draw the line, as a free thinking individual? Do you want choice, or not?







Let's start by outlawing cigarettes!

[amber]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

^^^Tru dat, BUT, we'd also be much better off without alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, and all illegal drugs(not even mentioning all the foods that are terrible for us). Where do you draw the line, as a free thinking individual? Do you want choice, or not?







Let's start by outlawing cigarettes!

None of those things has even close to the catastrophic affect on the environment, which is mainly what I was talking about. Human health is cool, but not really at the top of my concerns to a point. Also, I can still eat hamburgers if McD's shuts down, so I do have choice. And I, personally, think drugs should be legal.

[HomerMcvie]

^^^Hmm, heroin legal, but hamburgers not. Oh wait, you're not outlawing hamburgers, only McDonald's restaurants! What's next?

[amber]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

^^^Hmm, heroin legal, but hamburgers not. Oh wait, you're not outlawing hamburgers, only McDonald's restaurants! What's next?

I'm sorry you don't really get it, but...
it makes sense to me, though you may talk about it like it is odd. Although making meth is really bad for the environment, too, so that is bad. To me it really isn't our god given choice to be able to go to McDonalds. Where is the choice of whatever lives in entire ecosystems that are destroyed, which incidentally, is the same ecosystem that supports us?
To me, the "choice" of being able to go to McDonalds has so little value, and does so much damage, that I simply wouldn't care if it was banned.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by amber

Carrie, don't be trying to call that healthy on $20/a week the Carrie diet... Poser.

it is the carrie diet. and yours is the amber diet.

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I honestly believe that a person cannot lose weight eating processed food, which is exactly what any type of frozen dinner is.

i think you can lose weight, i just don't know how sustainable it would be.

[markolas]

Someone needs to explain to me this $20 a week thing. Let's see a copy of your grocery list. I spend $40-$60 a week. And you're not buying any processed food?

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by markolas

Someone needs to explain to me this $20 a week thing. Let's see a copy of your grocery list. I spend $40-$60 a week. And you're not buying any processed food?

no processed foods. i buy just enough to eat 1500 cal/day. these days i spend more like $25/week because i got a raise at work. i don't buy really expensive stuff like cereal or bread, and the only prepackaged thing i buy these days are kashi trail mix granola bars. and occasionally i get morningstar fake chicken patties or black bean burgers, but those are expensive. usually i buy seven apples, enough romaine lettuce to make seven salads (and i don't buy the pre-cut mixes, either, just straight romaine), whole grain pasta (usually buy it when it's on sale, though, in larger quantities), eggs, soy milk, vanilla yogurt (one of the larger containers), almonds, etc. sometimes i buy extras like olive oil or coconut oil or seasonings, whenever i start running out, but that's not a weekly thing. $20/week is possible!

[markolas]

Originally Posted by carrie721

no processed foods. i buy just enough to eat 1500 cal/day. these days i spend more like $25/week because i got a raise at work. i don't buy really expensive stuff like cereal or bread, and the only prepackaged thing i buy these days are kashi trail mix granola bars. and occasionally i get morningstar fake chicken patties or black bean burgers, but those are expensive. usually i buy seven apples, enough romaine lettuce to make seven salads (and i don't buy the pre-cut mixes, either, just straight romaine), whole grain pasta (usually buy it when it's on sale, though, in larger quantities), eggs, soy milk, vanilla yogurt (one of the larger containers), almonds, etc. sometimes i buy extras like olive oil or coconut oil or seasonings, whenever i start running out, but that's not a weekly thing. $20/week is possible!

You don't buy cereal or bread??? What are you eating for breakfast? A granola bar? I'd pass out before 10am if that's all I had! Seriously, if all I had to eat in a day was a granola bar, a salad, and a fake chicken patty, I would not be able to function. And I'd probably be fired from my job because I strangled the first person who tried to talk to me.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by markolas

You don't buy cereal or bread??? What are you eating for breakfast? A granola bar? I'd pass out before 10am if that's all I had! Seriously, if all I had to eat in a day was a granola bar, a salad, and a fake chicken patty, I would not be able to function. And I'd probably be fired from my job because I strangled the first person who tried to talk to me.

i'm going to respond to this and johnny stew's earlier post that he would starve:

that's not all i eat. i mean, jesus christ, what do you people expect? you asked how i eat on $20/week, and i told you. it's not that crazy, i've done it for months (aside from the entire month of february, but that's another story). i love food, i am totally an emotional eater (see february), but i decided to lose weight. in order to do that, you have to cut calories.

no, i don't eat cereal. it's expensive , especially if you want to get the kind that doesn't have high fructose corn syrup and a whole bunch of other processed crap that's bad for you. and i do! i eat eggs and yogurt for breakfast. maybe a couple almonds. grand total: 300 cals. then i have a salad. depending on what i put on it, that can be up to 150 cals. apple and peanut butter: 300 calories. whole wheat pasta and pasta sauce: 300 calories. almonds, dried cranberries, crackers (ok, i buy crackers): 300 calories. and at some point during the day i usually have a granola bar, which is 140 calories.

which brings me to a grand total of 1490 calories, and that, in addition to exercising every day, is how i have lost over 30 pounds.

if you want to lose weight cheaply, that's how you do it. if you don't want to lose weight, then fine! eat whatever the hell you want. and if you don't want to do it on $20 a week, then fine! but it can be done, and you asked, so i told you. i'm not crazy for not buying bread or cereal - that **** is high in carbs and calories. i'm looking to get the most out of my dollar and my calories.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by carrie721

i'm looking to get the most out of my dollar and my calories.

me too. I try to eat between 1200-1400 cals a day and I eat similar to the way you do. and I don't want to break the bank either. it's like...the more harmful stuff they take out, the more they charge you. doesn't make sense.

anyway, I do eat cereal on occasion and bread 3-4 times a week.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I honestly believe that a person cannot lose weight eating processed food, which is exactly what any type of frozen dinner is.

Well, they can lose weight if the frozen selcetions reduce the caloric intake. In other words, if you eat three 300 calorie Lean Cuisines every day for a month, you will lose weight. The deal breaker there is that few people can sustain such a rigid plan and when they go back to real food, they likely will go way over the 1,000 or so calories a day and their body will horde the fat, etc.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

me too. I try to eat between 1200-1400 cals a day and I eat similar to the way you do. and I don't want to break the bank either. it's like...the more harmful stuff they take out, the more they charge you. doesn't make sense.

anyway, I do eat cereal on occasion and bread 3-4 times a week.

i eat cereal on occasion, too, but i only eat bread these days if i have a sandwich at work. and then, it's only half a sandwich, because two pieces of bread is, like, 240 calories. it's crazy. so i take one piece of bread, put some turkey, colby, tomato, lettuce, mustard, and a smidge (smidge!) of mayo, and it's 300 cals. perfecto.