Some People Shouldn't Breed.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by paleshadow

Seriously, you need a license to go fishing, but anyone can create life!

And it's time for me to bring up one of my favorite movie quotes ever:

"...you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father."

--Todd (Keanu Reeves) in Parenthood

[Für Elise]

I still think its bad but I don't know why this is seen as so shocking and as disgusting as people are saying. doesn't that kind of thing happen to every parent at one point? my mum said I was pulled from traffic once when she was talking to someone and I went wandering. there are a heap of other stories like that some where I could have died. things like when we'd go play in the yard at a friends farm and he got kicked by a horse and lost part of his hand while our parents were inside and not watching. the mother doesn't sound that different from most only she wasn't there to go and grab him. maybe I didn't read it properly and missed something.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by Für Elise

I still think its bad but I don't know why this is seen as so shocking and as disgusting as people are saying. doesn't that kind of thing happen to every parent at one point? my mum said I was pulled from traffic once when she was talking to someone and I went wandering. there are a heap of other stories like that some where I could have died. things like when we'd go play in the yard at a friends farm and he got kicked by a horse and lost part of his hand while our parents were inside and not watching. the mother doesn't sound that different from most only she wasn't there to go and grab him. maybe I didn't read it properly and missed something.

kinda sounds like your mom didn't watch you all that well, either ... i mean, playing in traffic?

and we're not just talking about a suburban street here ... we're talking about a freeway, where people are driving 70 mph and faster.

[Für Elise]

Originally Posted by carrie721

kinda sounds like your mom didn't watch you all that well, either ... i mean, playing in traffic?

and we're not just talking about a suburban street here ... we're talking about a freeway, where people are driving 70 mph and faster.

I wasn't talking about a suburban street but not a freeway. that was someone in the centre of london I don't know where specifically but she said busy traffic. But you take your eyes of a kid for a minute and anything can happen. not every mother can be watching their kid 24 hours a day.

[ragandbone]

Originally Posted by Für Elise

my mum said I was pulled from traffic once when she was talking to someone and I went wandering. there are a heap of other stories like that some where I could have died. things like when we'd go play in the yard at a friends farm and he got kicked by a horse and lost part of his hand while our parents were inside and not watching. the mother doesn't sound that different from most only she wasn't there to go and grab him. maybe I didn't read it properly and missed something.

My mother used to leave me in the car while she went into the supermarket (although not at 3, but perhaps at 5) and I think it would take all of 5 minutes for someone to report that, now.
There is an age when toddlers like to run off, even the ones who used to hang close to mama. I have heard quite a few stories of parents searching a crowded beach or mall for up to an hour for their child. Probably the difference would be searching for your child, and having someone bring your child to you while you are sleeping. I think you would tend to get a lot more blame in the second case.

The scariest stories are those of parents who claimed to believe they had dropped children off at daycare, but who parked their cars, with their babies or toddlers asleep in the carseat. My mother—who likes to relate every horrifying story she ever hears, especially at the dinner table—alerts me every time one of these hits the news.

[sara1998]

She was quoted in the news this morning saying that she did this to herself. I can't help but to feel kind of bad for her now. I'm still appaled that the boy was playing on 465... Stress in life, (in her case moving, looking for work...) can turn you into a different person. I know that when my husband passed, if it wasn't for us moving in with my folks, things could have been a lot different for me. I wasn't as attentive as I could have been.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/10670529/detail.html

INDIANAPOLIS -- A bond reduction request was denied Thursday for the mother of a toddler found wandering on Interstate 465 on Saturday.

Nancy Dyer, 30, went before a judge to face four felony counts of child neglect. A not-guilty plea was entered for her and a trial was set for Feb. 28. Dyer, who has been in jail since the incident, and her assigned public defender declined to answer questions, but she told a Marion County judge, "I did this to myself," 6News' Julie Pursley reported.

Dyer's 3-year-old son, Damon, was found along Interstate 465 near 56th Street, not far from where they live. After a passerby stopped to help the boy, police said they found Dyer sleeping in her west side apartment.

"Apparently, she had said that he often would get out of the apartment. Apartment management was aware of that as well. So, she would place boxes to block him from climbing out," said Helen Marchal, of the Marion County Prosecutor's Office. "Whether ... she did that night or morning, we don't know. All we know is that the last thing she said she had seen her son when she went to bed the night before."

Prosecutor's said some of the charges stem from the discovery that Damon and his 2-year-old sister, Gabrielle, were living in filth, with feces on the wall and food on the floor.

"The little girl was found eating Spaghettios out of a garbage bag that had been placed there the night before, according to the mom," Marchal said.

Dyer told the judge that she moved to Indianapolis from Florida last month to be near family because she was in debt.

Dyer said that she gets inheritance money from a trust fund, but was looking for work. Dyer said in court that she couldn't get a job until she found childcare because she couldn't leave her children unattended.

The judge denied a request to reduce Dyer's $3,500 bond. The children are in protective custody, and Dyer is not allowed to have contact with them.

[SuzeQuze]

Yeah, if parents are depressed they can't properly care for their children and that is very sad. But then they should ask for help. Unfortunately some people have no one to help them.

My brother used to "escape" too but my Mom was usually on top of him. One time he did climb out a window and was found running down the street. He was 2.

I never knew where he was running, the kid would just run. God help me if I have that kind of child. He had one of those harnesses so he wouldn't be killed. Strangers thought my mother was a psycho but everyone who knew Billy said, "No, you gotta do what you gotta do to keep him safe."

Of course I was the angel that would sit and play quietly by myself all day. I don't know how a family could have 2 so different children. Although as adults we are much more alike.

[ragandbone]

That's sad. The descrition of the house is awful. It could be depression, It coudl be drugs, or both, and more. Intervention was totally need here, but I don't understand why a mother would not be allowed contact with the kids: that is just punishment for them, and they haven't done anything wrong here.

Originally Posted by sara1998

She was quoted in the news this morning saying that she did this to herself. I can't help but to feel kind of bad for her now. I'm still appaled that the boy was playing on 465... Stress in life, (in her case moving, looking for work...) can turn you into a different person. I know that when my husband passed, if it wasn't for us moving in with my folks, things could have been a lot different for me. I wasn't as attentive as I could have been.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/10670529/detail.html

INDIANAPOLIS -- A bond reduction request was denied Thursday for the mother of a toddler found wandering on Interstate 465 on Saturday.

Nancy Dyer, 30, went before a judge to face four felony counts of child neglect. A not-guilty plea was entered for her and a trial was set for Feb. 28. Dyer, who has been in jail since the incident, and her assigned public defender declined to answer questions, but she told a Marion County judge, "I did this to myself," 6News' Julie Pursley reported.

Dyer's 3-year-old son, Damon, was found along Interstate 465 near 56th Street, not far from where they live. After a passerby stopped to help the boy, police said they found Dyer sleeping in her west side apartment.

"Apparently, she had said that he often would get out of the apartment. Apartment management was aware of that as well. So, she would place boxes to block him from climbing out," said Helen Marchal, of the Marion County Prosecutor's Office. "Whether ... she did that night or morning, we don't know. All we know is that the last thing she said she had seen her son when she went to bed the night before."

Prosecutor's said some of the charges stem from the discovery that Damon and his 2-year-old sister, Gabrielle, were living in filth, with feces on the wall and food on the floor.

"The little girl was found eating Spaghettios out of a garbage bag that had been placed there the night before, according to the mom," Marchal said.

Dyer told the judge that she moved to Indianapolis from Florida last month to be near family because she was in debt.

Dyer said that she gets inheritance money from a trust fund, but was looking for work. Dyer said in court that she couldn't get a job until she found childcare because she couldn't leave her children unattended.

The judge denied a request to reduce Dyer's $3,500 bond. The children are in protective custody, and Dyer is not allowed to have contact with them.