White House Christmas - Page 2

gldstwmn · #16 12-29-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

um, hello? if we don't continue being ridiculously wasteful, garish, and thoughtless, the terrorists win!

Now go out shopping!

BlackWidow · #17 12-29-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt

Let's face it, Bush doesn't have anything close to a grip on reality nor does he understand the consequences of his actions. And now he's talking sending more troops to Iraq. If Pelosi doesn't fight this with every fiber of her being, then I will personally organize the protests outside her office.

I am beyond disgusted with Bush. Lately I've been trying to deal with my ongoing outrage at the people who reelected that monster in '04. How could people have done that to the world.

YEA! Thank you everyone for voting for this asshole again!!! LOVELY!
Someone sent Tom & I a XMas card that had the Bush Family all together in a family christmas pose and above their heads it said
"PISS ON EARTH!"

gldstwmn · #18 12-29-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackWidow

YEA! Thank you everyone for voting for this asshole again!!! LOVELY!
Someone sent Tom & I a XMas card that had the Bush Family all together in a family christmas pose and above their heads it said
"PISS ON EARTH!"

Truer words were never spoken.

DavidMn · #19 12-30-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Truer words were never spoken.

Piss on earth. GAWD that's funny!!

BlackWidow · #20 12-30-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn

Piss on earth. GAWD that's funny!!

Brilliant huh????!!!

strandinthewind · #21 01-01-2007, 11:44 PM

Then you're going to have to fault every President in, I believe, the history of the US and televised since, I believe, the Kennedy era

amber · #22 01-02-2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Then you're going to have to fault every President in, I believe, the history of the US and televised since, I believe, the Kennedy era

No, only the ones who had that party when we were at war. And I mean one of the public wars, not one of Reagan's sneaky sneaky ones.

strandinthewind · #23 01-02-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by amber

No, only the ones who had that party when we were at war. And I mean one of the public wars, not one of Reagan's sneaky sneaky ones.

Um - We did lots of military campaigns (some legal and some not) during the Clinton years and Bush I. Not to mention the entire Vietnam thing. People died in those and in the latter much more than in Nam

In the end, people can think what they want about the propriety of it, but Bush II is doing nothing different here. So, to put the disgust solely on him just because you hate him as I do, is unfair and hypocritical

skcin · #24 01-02-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by amber

No, only the ones who had that party when we were at war. And I mean one of the public wars, not one of Reagan's sneaky sneaky ones.

Exactly.

I have no problems with the decorating & fesitivities in theory, but I feel that when we're at war, it should be toned down a bit.

Strand's just pissed because I denounced the Scottie topiaries.

strandinthewind · #25 01-02-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by skcin

. . . Strand's just pissed because I denounced the Scottie topiaries.

strandinthewind · #26 01-02-2007, 11:54 AM

Some other WH Christmas stuff:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/holiday/whtree/

http://www.whitehousehistory.org/09/09.html

I think many people see it as a tradition and it gives them hope. SO, I say do it. But others hate it I guess.

Interestingly, here is the WWII time period:

The Twelve Years of Christmases
Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt loved Christmas: the scent of a fresh evergreen tree warmed by the fire of candles; the President's Christmas Eve ritual of reading and reciting from memory the Dickens classic Christmas Carol; the First Lady's gift buying for family friends and the hundreds of people who made their life at the White House more enjoyable.

Though half of the Christmases of the Roosevelts' 12-year tenure were seasoned by war, the holidays was always a joyous, festive, exciting family event. A year-round Christmas shopper, the First Lady maintained a Christmas Closet where she kept all the gifts she began assembling each January. To keep track of all her purchases, she kept a detailed Christmas book.

Among the most unique of the Roosevelts' gifts were the pewter items made at The Forge, a foundry established by the First Lady to create Depression-era jobs for young men willing to learn the art of metal craft. With war threatening, The Forge closed, and the First Family turned to a number of other sources for gift ideas. The Roosevelt Christmas cards were enclosed with gifts. Some, most likely, were sent as greetings. With the war in Europe came increasing contact with other heads of state, and the President also sent these cards abroad.

http://www.whitehousechristmas.com/W...spx?curPres=19

skcin · #27 01-02-2007, 12:09 PM

^ Great.

I have no problems with trying to be festive. I do have a problem with gluttony - why do you need to serve (and I quote from the special) "steak, steak and more steak" at every dinner? I also have a problem with wasting food - baking cookie ornaments soley for decorating?

All I'm saying is that it could have been done in a more tasteful, less garish manner. The way it was presented was almost like bragging. I was appalled.

strandinthewind · #28 01-02-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

^ Great.

I have no problems with trying to be festive. I do have a problem with gluttony - why do you need to serve (and I quote from the special) "steak, steak and more steak" at every dinner? I also have a problem with wasting food - baking cookie ornaments soley for decorating?

All I'm saying is that it could have been done in a more tasteful, less garish manner. The way it was presented was almost like bragging. I was appalled.

They all use this as a political tool, esp. now that the media more of a political tool

skcin · #29 01-02-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

They all use this as a political tool, esp. now that the media more of a political tool

I don't get what you're saying. Who's using what as a political tool?

strandinthewind · #30 01-02-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

I don't get what you're saying. Who's using what as a political tool?

I suggest that while the inhabitants of the WH all clearly celebrate Christmas, the photos are all staged and used to sell in some manner the current regimes throughout the history of the US. Clearly, the image of any first family around the Christmas tree, etc., sells to the masses.

Another example was Joan Crawford exploiting Christmas for pubilicity in that movie.

So, I think they all do it. On a similar note, the Clintons were always careful to be shown holding hands in Sunday service. While I think they were legit in being there, I think they knew that photo would play well. In fact, it likely was directed as are just about all photo ops.