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 And - just about all of the things happening in the Middle East are happening on a lesser scale in our cities and in the black neighborhoods. Black kids are taught to fear/hate/etc. whitie and the white kids are taught to hate the ni**ers - a generalization I know -- but it has truth in it  Thus, the constant perpetuation of the race wars, though they have gotten much better over the last 40 years. It is the same mindset of hate that drives both sets IMO.
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12-20-2006, 10:14 PM
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What does Amber have to do with this?  She and I have already had it out over racial issues a long time ago, and she has talked about her experiences a few times in the past. I didn't feel the need to ask her about it again, but if you'd like me to, I will. I wanted to know about your experiences - did they beat you, tease you, what? Just curious, if you're so sensitive about it, then why bring it up? I told everyone my experience - I was called a white bitch. But here's more detail for you - it was because I pulled out of a parking space quicker than someone else & they got pissed off at me. Stupid, huh? I've also been called a rich bitch because I had a good job, which I obtained by putting myself through school in order to get a good degree, not because I had anything handed to me. But the person that called me that (an unemployed perfectly able bodied single man who lived with his mother) didn't care to hear about that. I've never been actually discrminated against to my knowledge, and I was curious to hear your experiences. As far as why it was odd that a black girl put a stop to it, was this girl part of their crew or something?And no, you never did directly answer my question. I actually took the time to go back through this entire thread earlier today to make sure I hadn't missed it. You clarified what you meant to say, but you did NOT explain why you chose to word it in that way. And IMO, it's because you did mean to word it that way, and that you truly are distrustful of all Muslims & think any Muslim might be a terrorist. And I can't make heads or tails of your last paragraph in the above quote, perhaps we're talking about two different things? Yes, I do agree with you that there will be a huge blow-up in the Middle East between opposing religious groups. But no, I do not hate or suspect all Muslims of terrorism. These two opinions are independent of one another in my book. You claim to love a good discussion & debate, but it seems that when you're called out on something you cry "baiting!"  I mean really, Mary, if you're having trust issues with someone on a message board, you're taking this place waaaayyyy to seriously. Coming here just to f*ck with people is not my thing, never has been.
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 this is true. But then maybe i'd make more $$$ ..... Or not haha
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rosie knew she was going to be sued the moment the words left her mouth but i'll give it to her -- what she said was hysterical. i love baba wawa's response... We cherish them both and hope the New Year brings calm and peace. ha.
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12-21-2006, 01:52 AM
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Oh yeah, and I actually agree with him - Rosie is a loud-mouthed loser
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No.  It's weird that she's really good friends with Vadge, too.
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i used to like her. now i'm irritated by her. but her comments today made me laugh -- mainly because i don't care for trump either.
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Trump has no leg to stand on in this suit. Truth is a defense and everything she said was true or an opinion, which is not actionable. The only thing that maight hold water is her statement "he'll probably be bankrupt by that time so I won't have to worry" - but The Donald has been bankrupt before and to disprove this statement, which is essentially non actionable conjecture at best, The Donald will have to show his holdings, which he has been loathe to do in the past and he has been bankrupt in the past.
Also, Trump will come across as an ass because he attacked a woman by calling her ugly on the inside and outside - which is the same as saying she is fat, which does not play well with women in Middle America and elsewhere. And, let's face it, The Donald is doing this for ratings for his new show, though he may be pissed as well. Also, Rosie in theory could sue The Donals because she is not a loser per se. Her cable talk show made her millions, she most certainly did not fold up like a tent when her magazine got sued - rather she fought it and partially won, and her cruise line stuff is doing well. So, her attacked her business interests with that and she could prove damages. She could also seek a restraining order against The Donald for his threats againse her family. In the end, I think this is one big publicity stunt by The Donald. Having said that, The Donald is an a$$ for saying/threatening the following: Quote:
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Here is some info on The Donald's "success"
Bankruptcy The following information is disputed by Donald Trump and the outcome of possible litigation between him and Rosie O'Donnell may help to clarify. By 1990, the effects of recession left him unable to meet loan payments. Although he shored up his businesses with additional loans and postponed interest payments, increasing debt brought Trump to business bankruptcy and the brink of personal bankruptcy. Banks and bond holders had lost hundreds of millions of dollars, but opted to restructure his debt to avoid the risk of losing more money in court. Things were so bleak for Trump at this time that in the August 21, 1990 edition of the Jersey Record, columnist Mike Kelly wrote "If we still had debtors' prisons, Trump would be in the dungeon." Kelly added that "Donald Trump is a Third World Nation." Also in 1990, he co-produced the game show Trump Card in syndication. By 1994, Trump had eliminated a large portion of his $900 million personal debt and reduced significantly his nearly $3.5 billion in business debt. While he was forced to relinquish the Trump Shuttle (which he had bought in 1989), he managed to retain Trump Tower in New York City and control of his three casinos in Atlantic City. Chase Manhattan Bank, (which lent Trump the money he needed to buy the West Side yards, his biggest Manhattan parcel) forced a sale of the parcel to Asian developers. According to former members of the Trump Organization, Trump did not retain any ownership of the site's real estate - the owners merely promised to give him about 30 percent of the profits once the site was completely developed or sold. Until that time, the owners wanted to keep Trump on to do what he did best: building things. They gave him a modest construction fee and a management fee to oversee the development. The new owners also allowed him to put his name on the buildings that eventually rose on the yards because his well-known moniker allowed them to charge a premium for their condos. In 1995, he combined his casino holdings into the publicly held Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts. Wall Street drove its stock above $35 in 1996, but by 1998 it had fallen into single digits as the company remained profitless and struggled to pay just the interest on its nearly $2 billion in debt. Under such financial pressure, the properties were unable to make the improvements necessary for keeping up with their flashier competitors. In 1999, Donald's father Fred Trump, a multi-billion dollar real estate mogul, died. Fred Trump, the same man who cosigned Donald's first business loans, also happened to be the man who enabled Donald to escape from the massive financial morass he had created over the decades. Creditors who got stuck with the past losses were not as fortunate. Whereas Donald walked away from his empire unscathed, others were forced to take catastrophic writeoffs and losses even up to 2004, when Trump refused to continue to back his casino. Although Trump boasted he would build a bigger empire than his father, in the end, his father built an empire so large it could even accommodate Donald's most lavish personal losses. Problems loomed for Trump's casino resorts. In a May 28, 2004 Wall Street Journal article, Trump said the spectre of bankruptcy bothered him "from a psychological standpoint," but added, "it really wouldn't matter that much." A number of his bondholders disagreed. In the same article, "Meyer Marvald, a Florida retiree who says he owns about $44,000 of the bonds," said Trump "has the Sword of Damocles hanging over our heads." On October 21, 2004, Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts announced a restructuring of its debt. The plan called for Trump's individual ownership to be reduced from 56 percent to 27 percent, with bondholders receiving stock in exchange for surrendering part of the debt. Since then, Trump Hotels has been forced to seek voluntary bankruptcy protection to stay afloat. As a result of his company filing for Chapter 11 Protection, in May of 2005 Trump relinquished his CEO position. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
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