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Old 09-19-2006, 10:09 AM
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Which was apparent while he campaigned so I am still baffled by his following!
No soild Democratic opposition. Gore was a snore and Kerry was just Bush light And - it was these two D's election to lose, which they did. I get all the FL recounts, Diebold problems, etc. But, W was vulnerable in so many areas and the D's could not get to those without exposing their own weaknesses, which were the same as W's.

In the end, this go around, if the D's lose, that is about it for that party as wel know it because a horse's a$$ could defeat the R's right now.
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Old 09-19-2006, 10:11 AM
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No soild Democratic opposition. Gore was a snore and Kerry was just Bush light And - it was these two D's election to lose, which they did. I get all the FL recounts, Diebold problems, etc. But, W was vulnerable in so many areas and the D's could not get to those without exposing their own weaknesses, which were the same as W's.

In the end, this go around, if the D's lose, that is about it for that party as wel know it because a horse's a$$ could defeat the R's right now.
I still say so what if he was a snore, I can't understand why people can't use their heads. What are the consequences of electing an idiot over someone who might not be so charismatic but is very bright? Gee, I wonder. It isn't rocket science.
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Old 09-19-2006, 10:23 AM
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I still say so what if he was a snore, I can't understand why people can't use their heads. What are the consequences of electing an idiot over someone who might not be so charismatic but is very bright? Gee, I wonder. It isn't rocket science.
I have always said the vast majority of the American voters are stupid and easily tricked.

I think many if not most people think that 9/11 would have happened no matter who was in office. And - I cannot say they are incorrect because it is all specualtion. But, the odds of a Gore administration picking up the ball and running with the one memo of thousands in Aug. 06 and then making all the req. connections is slim to none Also, Clinton pretty much lost it for Gore. America is prudish and that is that. As for Kerry, I think his foreign wife coupled with his Mass. image was enough to drive the most middle voters away. I know this does not sit well with the far left, but many, including me, think that paying anything over 20% to the Feds in income tax on top of all the other taxes we pay is assinine and Kerry projected the image of being for higher taxes. So, he lost on that and, I think, his perceived position on the war. I think many people thought "well, Kerry voted for the war and has long called for the ousting of the dangerous SH - well, W has that same position and why change boats in mid stream."

Also, as long as the D's allow themselves to be portrayed as Godless liberals who want abortion on demand at any time it is in the mother and gay activists - they will be hard pressed to win. But, maybe the times are a changin.
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I have always said the vast majority of the American voters are stupid and easily tricked.

I think many if not most people think that 9/11 would have happened no matter who was in office. And - I cannot say they are incorrect because it is all specualtion. But, the odds of a Gore administration picking up the ball and running with the one memo of thousands in Aug. 06 and then making all the req. connections is slim to none Also, Clinton pretty much lost it for Gore. America is prudish and that is that. As for Kerry, I think his foreign wife coupled with his Mass. image was enough to drive the most middle voters away. I know this does not sit well with the far left, but many, including me, think that paying anything over 20% to the Feds in income tax on top of all the other taxes we pay is assinine and Kerry projected the image of being for higher taxes. So, he lost on that and, I think, his perceived position on the war. I think many people thought "well, Kerry voted for the war and has long called for the ousting of the dangerous SH - well, W has that same position and why change boats in mid stream."

Also, as long as the D's allow themselves to be portrayed as Godless liberals who want abortion on demand at any time it is in the mother and gay activists - they will be hard pressed to win. But, maybe the times are a changin.
You are right and I am finally getting it. My Idealist heart is broken.

We'll see what the dems do in Nov. They really need to show some cajones and stand firm for something.
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