Clinton officials rip ABC’s ‘The Path to 9/11’ - Page 3

gldstwmn · #31 09-08-2006, 09:12 AM

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Who's behind this travesty?

ABC is showing this commercial free. Interesting.

SuzeQuze · #32 09-08-2006, 09:27 AM

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ABC is showing this commercial free. Interesting.

Perhaps because it is a commercial?

gldstwmn · #33 09-08-2006, 09:36 AM

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And 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, period!

The first WTC attack happened after Clinton was in office for 30 days. So really, the finger could be pointed at George HW Bush as well.

gldstwmn · #34 09-08-2006, 09:39 AM

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Perhaps because it is a commercial?

Touche.

strandinthewind · #35 09-08-2006, 10:29 AM

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I could probably go dig up WAAAAAAAY more than ONE time Clinton caught or fought terrorists. Why do you always have this knee jerk reaction to smear Clinton every chance you get? You are as bad as the Far Right Wackos where he's concerned

Clinton was not on the left. In fact, he was IMO far right - just without the dogma.

SuzeQuze · #36 09-08-2006, 10:47 AM

A petition for those interested: http://www.democrats.org/pathto911

irishgrl · #37 09-08-2006, 10:55 AM

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A petition for those interested: http://www.democrats.org/pathto911

signed, thanks!

estranged4life · #38 09-08-2006, 05:45 PM

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George HW Bush

Does that mean Hoping (For) War???

desertangel · #39 09-09-2006, 04:13 AM

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doncha love how the truth just SMEARS all their faces with egg?

Yes. If that's really the case, it seems rather childish to me, now... looking back on it... to say Clinton's administration was going to do all these things to undermine our freedom and it ended up really happening on Ws watch. And it makes me think the Repubs had secret plans they were trying to keep up their sleeve and couldn't so they let it out as part of the smear campaign against BC. The Lewinsky thing was a better smear campaign... I mean, to speculate and try and hang something nasty on somebody that's really something you plan on doing yourself in the future is just lame, to say the least.

We could go back and forth on the "whose watch" this whole thing started under, but I think we'd have to go back pretty far. To me, it doesn't really matter who started it, but who made the biggest mess. From what I've seen of past administrations, approaching foreign affairs with a great deal of finese seems more effective. Although the US wasn't exactly the world power then that it is now, is it really necessary to be a bully just to stay on top?

The problem with all this is, most of us don't necessarily possess the ability to do the required homework on either side of these issues. Most of what we have to go on is what other people write and we probably won't know their slant, either. I would love to be an investigative reporter, mostly because I don't trust most other people's interpretations and opinions. Reading Hitler's Mein Kampf, specifically the sections having to do with propaganda, how to be a good orator and dealing with the masses, really made me look at the media and people in the public eye very differently. Besides, partisan political rangling irritates the crap out of me.

Anyway... rambling. Politics Schmolotics... I guess it's what we/I do when we get tired of talking about Stevie's hair.

bikerchic · #40 09-11-2006, 09:04 AM

Anyone watch? I did. Watched it with a grain of salt. Kinda long without any commercials. I can see why Clinton didn't want it aired. Ohhhh Monica. Just the fact that that the government knew that there was threats of flying planes into buildings years before the attack and nothing was said or done about it just blows my mind.

strandinthewind · #41 09-11-2006, 10:12 AM

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. . . Just the fact that that the government knew that there was threats of flying planes into buildings years before the attack and nothing was said or done about it just blows my mind.

I know - and there are other things too. Like the devices that can stop missles from hitting commercial airliners. The military and other govt. planes use them, but the airlines (due to effective lobbying) do not have to put them on their aircraft - I suspect because they said it would cost too much

And - I agree that Clinton shares culpability with W and Bush I on this. In the end though, I think W is the worst because although all three killed in the name of WMD - W's seems the comparative worst - though that comparison is rather sick to me because killing even one is too much and the actions of the worst (W) do not lessen the horrible actions of the least (argulably Clinton) -- This is why when people talk about Iraq, OBL, and the war on terror, all three Presidents must be considered together as this current state was not instantly formed or did not end with each Presidential term. Rather, it was an organics thing - Did I just sound like LB

bikerchic · #42 09-11-2006, 01:27 PM

The fact that Bush went into that 2nd grade classroom, knowing that a plane had hit the first tower (he had to know it was Bin Laden) and then remain there even longer with the news that a plane hit the 2nd tower is mind boggling.

strandinthewind · #43 09-11-2006, 01:31 PM

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The fact that Bush went into that 2nd grade classroom, knowing that a plane had hit the first tower (he had to know it was Bin Laden) and then remain there even longer with the news that a plane hit the 2nd tower is mind boggling.

I often wonder what was the mind set for that. I think in some way the SS knew W was in a safe, secure area and they were perhaps trying to fugure out which plan to execute to get him out of there. But, the more I think about it, the more him staying there makes no sense, esp. given the actions of his admin. five years later. I just cannot bring myself to think they knew about 9/11 and did nothing to stop it.

bikerchic · #44 09-11-2006, 01:40 PM

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they were perhaps trying to fugure out which plan to execute to get him out of there.

But shouldn't they have had "that" plan ready for something like this? It's the president for god's sake and they knew about these threats for years

strandinthewind · #45 09-11-2006, 01:46 PM

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But shouldn't they have had "that" plan ready for something like this? It's the president for god's sake and they knew about these threats for years

I agree - they likely had several options to choose from. I am just saying that I suspect the plan was to keep the Pres. in the securest location, which presumably the school was, until they could determine where to fly AF-1 to. I mean if there were rouge airplanes in the air, that could have taken time to figure out. I am not saying that was the deal - but it is likely. But, I agree, I now think him sitting there was odd.

On edit - I do think it smacks of cowardice though. I mean he portrays himself as the gun slinging wild west cowboy and then he appears to cower in a school while Americans are dying. But, his actions were similar, but IMO worse, when he was called into duty for Nam and instead took the easy way out. What can you expect from a hog but a grunt?