Question About "Outside The Rain"

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

GHOSTS KICKS ASS!!!

I also love Ooh My Love and Affairs of the Heart. Those would be killer live!
Amber has no clue.

Affairs of the Heart live would be great.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Best Version That Will Never Be Topped: Red Rocks '86

Last Time It Kicked Ass: Street Angel Tour

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by Sahara

I love that too. My favourite bit is as she sings the last two lines of OTR and you hear the bass of Dreams. It sounds very dramatic.

Forgive me .... what's ITBOMM?

In the Back of My Mind. They opened with it at the end of the Behind the Mask tour. It went right into the Chain. Great interlude!

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

In the Back of My Mind. They opened with it at the end of the Behind the Mask tour. It went right into the Chain. Great interlude!

Oooh ... that sounds interesting indeed. Can anyone send me it?

[StreetAngel86]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Best Version That Will Never Be Topped: Red Rocks '86

Last Time It Kicked Ass: Street Angel Tour

i TOTALLY agree.
I don't like oTR on BD
but live it KICKS ASS
and the ONLY version to get pumped up to is during RAL

OTR @ the House of Blues is probably my 2nd fave version ever
it's good live now
but nothing tops 94 & 86 NOTHING!

Edit: because everyone has/has heard the RR version i thought i'd upload the SA version incase someone has been deprived and hasn't heard it

this ORIGINAL unmauled HOB version:
http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2N...H39B5XNHWBQ44T

[David]

Originally Posted by StreetAngel86

but nothing tops 94 & 86 NOTHING![/url]

Too much crowing about Red Rocks all the time. If you spend some time -- say, the next fifteen days -- listening carefully to all fifty of the taped 1986 concerts, you will come to understand that Red Rocks was an average performance of Outside the Rain (good, but average).

It is easily bested by several other 1986 performances, including Madison Square Garden (August 5), Landover (August 2), Los Angeles (July 18), Jones Beach (June 8) & Holmdel (June 3).

Please, everyone, hunt those down (& any others) & expand your consciousness beyond the rather ordinary Red Rocks performance. If you wind up still liking Red Rocks the best after hearing the other fifty, that's okay. At least you will have given the other shows on the tour a chance.

sometimes I think we just nominate a certain performance as the best only because we have it on video or because it was released commercially. In the same way, everybody crows about the joys of "The Chain" on the Mirage concert video, when it was a good but sort of ordinary "Chain" up against Irvine Meadows (Oct. 18), the Meadowlands (Sept. 14), Detroit (Sept. 19) & Cedar Rapids (Oct. 25).

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by David

sometimes I think we just nominate a certain performance as the best only because we have it on video or because it was released commercially. In the same way, everybody crows about the joys of "The Chain" on the Mirage concert video, when it was a good but sort of ordinary "Chain" up against Irvine Meadows (Oct. 18), the Meadowlands (Sept. 14), Detroit (Sept. 19) & Cedar Rapids (Oct. 25).

Well, of course we do. When we nominate these songs we nominate them as 'the best of what we've heard'. Not everyone is able to hear all fifty RAL shows! If we find a better version in our own collection, we put it up and let people decide for themselves.

[MirrorInTheSky]

Originally Posted by StreetAngel86

Edit: because everyone has/has heard the RR version i thought i'd upload the SA version incase someone has been deprived and hasn't heard it

Thanks! That IS a kick ass version.

[SillyDreamer]

Originally Posted by David

Too much crowing about Red Rocks all the time. If you spend some time -- say, the next fifteen days -- listening carefully to all fifty of the taped 1986 concerts, you will come to understand that Red Rocks was an average performance of Outside the Rain (good, but average).

It is easily bested by several other 1986 performances, including Madison Square Garden (August 5), Landover (August 2), Los Angeles (July 18), Jones Beach (June 8) & Holmdel (June 3).

Please, everyone, hunt those down (& any others) & expand your consciousness beyond the rather ordinary Red Rocks performance. If you wind up still liking Red Rocks the best after hearing the other fifty, that's okay. At least you will have given the other shows on the tour a chance.

sometimes I think we just nominate a certain performance as the best only because we have it on video or because it was released commercially. In the same way, everybody crows about the joys of "The Chain" on the Mirage concert video, when it was a good but sort of ordinary "Chain" up against Irvine Meadows (Oct. 18), the Meadowlands (Sept. 14), Detroit (Sept. 19) & Cedar Rapids (Oct. 25).

Well, I'm all for hearing even better versions of my favorite songs... so let's hear the other OTR performances! I don't have them.... do you?

[skcin]

Originally Posted by priestofnothing

Stevie has said in interviews that Outside the Rain is the song Fleetwood Mac would have done at that time had she been working on a band album. I think she sees this song as the "link in the chain" between her new solo career with Bella Donna and her career with Fleetwood Mac up until that point. I also remember her saying the song was a continuation of Dreams, but why she performs them the other way around (OTR/Dreams) I don't know. Plus Tom Petty produced it so I'm sure that makes it special to her too.

Waddy has been trying to get her to drop OTR from the set for years. But did get her to do Rock and Roll (Go Waddy!)

Oh, Waddy. I just love him for trying to get her to change something. Didn't I hear that he tried to get her to open with either Bella Donna or TISL for the '01 tour? That? Would have killed.

I really do think it's her way of connecting her solo work with Mac for he live shows. I personally love it live. It's a good rock tune while still being slow, deep & sexy. Love it. Someone must have complained, or maybe it didn't feel right for her since although she dropped it partway through the TISL tour, it has since returned.

Would I be really upset if it were dropped? Not if it were dropped for another upbeat tune like Angel or TTM or No Spoken Word or If You Ever Did Believe. But if it were dropped for After the Glitter Fades or L&L or something like that, then yes, I'd be pissed.

I'm going through what I have on my hard drive, and to be honest, I really like all versions. Not a huge fan of how slow it was done in '81, I really like '83 & '86, then it's kind of so-so until '94 when she kicked the **** out of it! Current versions are good, but I hate when she doesn't go for it. And you know what I mean. I guess the '94 tour is my preference. I'll upload a version from most tours on yousendit as time (and computer cooperation) allow.

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

In the Back of My Mind. They opened with it at the end of the Behind the Mask tour. It went right into the Chain. Great interlude!

YES! That was so cool and different. Plus they had the stage closed with that banner with the masks...then it rose to reveal the band. Loved it.

[David]

Originally Posted by SillyDreamer

Well, I'm all for hearing even better versions of my favorite songs... so let's hear the other OTR performances! I don't have them.... do you?

I thought you guys all traded for all this material. I figured you ALL had most if not all of all this alla-walla-walla-wallla stuff!

You don't even need to trade for it any more. There are all those Web sites out there that just post it all year long! Come on, folks, wake up!

[David]

Originally Posted by Richard B

YES! That was so cool and different. Plus they had the stage closed with that banner with the masks...then it rose to reveal the band. Loved it.

But if you break it down musically (in terms of what was actually arranged), it wasn't a really smooth transition. Back of Mind just sort of ground to a halt & then Mick started the Chain kick drum. I mean, with that sort of thing, you can medlify any two songs!

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by David

But if you break it down musically (in terms of what was actually arranged), it wasn't a really smooth transition. Back of Mind just sort of ground to a halt & then Mick started the Chain kick drum. I mean, with that sort of thing, you can medlify any two songs!

Even so, I thought it made a perfect transition.

[Sahara]

TISL as an opener would have been