here comes the sun, apreciation thread. - Page 4

shackin'up · #46 03-14-2006, 01:52 PM

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No, I'd have gotten mad like an adult would've gotten mad. Then punished the offending infant or mentally deficient person. The way Lindsey ruined "Here Comes The Sun" was homicidal inducing.

If you keep dissing Lindsey's version like this in it's appreciationthread I'm gonna suggest to dig up the song's owners body and dance with it. I won't yet but I'm warning you.
Lindsey's version is sheer brilliance and has nothing to do with the original thank-god. It's as Buckstyle as you can get it, it flows over with emotion and he did it his way.

One step futher and I say to all the haters: watch it again and see if it's suicidal inducing.

madformac · #47 03-14-2006, 03:04 PM

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One step futher and I say to all the haters: watch it again and see if it's suicidal inducing.

Just watched it again... I'm off to switch the oven on... Hang on thats too expensive, gas in the UK is so pricey. Where did I put that rope?

chiliD · #48 03-14-2006, 03:46 PM

No, not "suicidal"..."HOMICIDAL".

shackin'up · #49 03-14-2006, 07:19 PM

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Just watched it again... I'm off to switch the oven on... Hang on thats too expensive, gas in the UK is so pricey. Where did I put that rope?

finish it. now.

shackin'up · #50 03-14-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

No, not "suicidal"..."HOMICIDAL".

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finish it. now.

"ditto", to quote you again.

madformac · #51 03-14-2006, 07:38 PM

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finish it. now.

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R.I.P. madformac. "His life was not in vane"

"He died so others could be spared listening to this song"

Chester · #52 03-14-2006, 08:27 PM

Is Madformac and ChilliD's only, maybe I should say MAIN, problem with the song that it was disrespectful and radically different to the original?

madformac · #53 03-14-2006, 08:38 PM

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Is Madformac and ChilliD's only, maybe I should say MAIN, problem with the song that it was disrespectful and radically different to the original?

I must admit I do have an issue with George's songs in particular. I'm not partial to them being tampered with in the way other artists are. But that's not my reasoning here.

My reason is it doesn't work on a musical level. As I mentioned earlier Lindsey has tried to sculpt his current style around pre existing lyrics that don't fit with it. It sounds rushed in places, disjointed in others. I wouldn't like it even if I hadn't heard Harrisons original. It's not that I hate the style, I think Shut Us Down is a great song, Red Rover is ok too. But he's tried to force it with this one. Songwriting can take many forms and if you are doing a cover it can be hugely different to the original, but you have to come out with something that flows in some shape or form and I don't believe this does.

Now, if you took the song as an instrumental piece it would be fine, sort of like Never Going Back Again on acid. If Lindsey sung the lyrics acapella again fine. Put them together and its like putting a gun in Dick Cheney's hands, you know theres going to be a hell of a mess.

shackin'up · #54 03-15-2006, 08:17 AM

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R.I.P. madformac. "His life was not in vane"

"He died so others could be spared listening to this song"

shackin'up · #55 03-15-2006, 08:51 AM

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Put them together and its like putting a gun in Dick Cheney's hands, you know theres going to be a hell of a mess.

Funny stated, Justin, but after rewatching the video (AGAIN!

) I don't think Lindsey does a spectacular different thing in combining the guitararrangement with the "conflicting" vocal/melodylines as he does in RR or Shut Us Down. I do think your comparison of HCTS with those two songs is so much more spot on than to compare it with his solo-Big Love. That version does not have the contradicting guitar-vocalmelodies.
So I think you still hear Harrisons' vocalmelody and how it fits with the instrumental arrangement which logically leads to an Unbalanced feel inside the listener when he's confronted with Lindsey's version.
I don't think there's something wrong with disliking it, I say it's wrong to say that it is bad. At least it is typical him to deconstruct the original and rearrange it in his newfound approach. It is at least gutsy and original, daring and earpiercing. The fact that the boss of the programm thought he had to shove it, for me is almost a compliment.

shackin'up · #56 03-15-2006, 08:54 AM

disrespectful. duh.

"Great, I get to play a Harrisonsong in the year he died on Newyears Eve. How can I make him tumble in his grave?"

chiliD · #57 03-15-2006, 11:13 AM

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Is Madformac and ChilliD's only, maybe I should say MAIN, problem with the song that it was disrespectful and radically different to the original?

"radically different", no...I don't have a problem with cover versions that are radically different to the original, as long as they're well thought out & executed.

"disrespectful", yes. Considering that George had just passed away 5 or 6 weeks earlier and being on national TV as a "tribute to George", it was just too radical & disrespectful FOR that moment. But, that's still not my MAIN problem with the song.

Lindsey just did a painfully ****ty job with the song. It was as if he had just come up with that arrangement about 10 minutes before he performed it and it just didn't work. You can't take "Big Love" (or "Red Rover"...or basically he just took one his OWN songs) and try to cram "Here Comes The Sun"'s lyrics into it. (which is how it sounded and how it came off) AND for being a supposed "tribute", the song came off WAY too angst ridden and angry...and the lyrical intent of the song is neither.

Chester · #58 03-15-2006, 11:49 AM

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Lindsey just did a painfully ****ty job with the song. It was as if he had just come up with that arrangement about 10 minutes before he performed it and it just didn't work.

So you don't think it is extraordinarily complex? As all of his songs in 6/8 are, it has some major "brain teaser" parts, to quote John. Have you tried to play it??

In general, the I see this performance (especially now that I know so many people hate it) as Lindsey's last hurrah as a sort of rebel and non-conformist kind of guy. He chose to do something knowing that people probably wouldn't like it, given that he wasn't even going to be allowed to play it on tv. And what you see as disrespectful, I see as that Tusk mentalitly coming through one last time. Was it disrectful to Americas sensitive and unsuspecting ears to pummel them with songs like "The Ledge" back in 1979? Granted, he didn't do it at a funeral, but still!

Peestie · #59 03-15-2006, 12:06 PM

I thought it was good. Not absolutly fantastic, but not bad by any stretch. I've never heard the original so I can't compare, but as a song in it's own right I didn't find anything wrong with that song.

chiliD · #60 03-15-2006, 12:22 PM

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So you don't think it is extraordinarily complex?

Yeah, and that is EXACTLY the reason I think it is crap. It's "complex" for "complex"es sake. "Here Comes The Sun" is a simple song with a simple, hopeful message, not some big complex opus with some "tortured artist" angst.

It's a bull**** arrangement by a bull**** artist. Lindsey appears to be constantly caught up in this whole "tortured artist" persona...it all seems posing and insincere. He has been that way since 1979. Its one thing to be "the tortured artist" when you're in your late 20s/early 30's...but once you cross that 50 line, you'd think that you'd have your **** together. He obviously doesn't.