Isn't it frustrating...

elie · #1 12-23-2005, 04:40 AM

...when noone shares your interest in FM?
I will explain myself: I am very very glad that I have found this forum because apart from the information I can get, I have finally the chance to chat with people that like the same music I do.
Where I live, FM have never been particularly popular -or should I say as big as in the US (don't ask me why

) and even if they had been in the past, nowadays I have the feeling that nobody listens to them except me (that does not normally bother me, but it is kind of sad that I can't find so much stuff about FM here - books or rare recordings).
But what I really hate is when people become really sarcastic when they discover that I am into them. I know you can't always share the same music tastes, but when it comes to FM, they act as if they were completely laughable! The other day I gave Rumours to my best friend, who is supposed to be really into music, and she was like "how in the world can you listen to this stuff in the year 2005??" (as if it matters what year it is when it comes to good music). And what is even more frustrating is that she likes groups or singers that have openly admitted that they were influenced by FM (like, let's say, Tori Amos) but when it comes to FM, she thinks that are silly, aged, or I don't know what else. And istead of being happy that she got one of the best records of all time as a gift she went on with her "my-music-tastes-are-so-sophisticated-I-listen-to-Bjork-and-David-Holmes" kind of thing.
Of course I am not expecting everyone to like them, but I think people should appreciate bands that have been a landmark in music history and even when they don't like them, they should just say: "not my taste exactly, but I see why they were that big". When you can't do that, I think that you are just clueless about music.
In the meantime, I'll just watch my Dance and Live in Boston dvds on my own (or with my boyfriend who is kind enough to listen to them, while not a fan, just because I like them!)
I am sorry for the long post, just needed to vent !
Love and merry Xmas to you all
elie

Mari · #2 12-23-2005, 04:45 AM

You wouldn't be living in the Netherlands, would you? That all sounds pretty familiar, though it has become better the last few years. Back in the nineties, when I was still in school, I wouldn't even dare to tell some people I was a fan!
Just do your own thing, don't let other people dictate your tastes

At least you're original

elie · #3 12-23-2005, 04:51 AM

Thanx! No, I live in Athens, Greece. The same happens in the Netherlands eh?
I still don't dare to say that I am into them. I know it's stupid but when I get reactions like "what? are you crazy??" I am really bored to answer back.

Sahara · #4 12-23-2005, 07:58 AM

I'm in Ireland and there's a bit of interest scattered here and there ... but not in the same realm of obsession as me -- and Angelick Witch

!!

If people respect your opinion then it can be cool to have a band that nobody else is into, it can be sort of 'your' thing. That's certainly how it is for me. In that regard it's sometimes good to not be one of the crowd.

But when people keep just slamming you down for it, it can be hard ....

I've certainly found solace in these boards anyway.

Lala · #5 12-23-2005, 12:03 PM

It's not quite as dire here in Canada, but I have yet to find someone who is as hard core as me. I meet people who say they like FM and I ask what their favorite song is and they say "Don't Stop" or the like. I wanna talk about Tusk demos and of course they have no clue. Most of my friends only like FM because their parents have Rumours, but I guess it's better than nothing. Most people respect me for my musical taste anyways. It's pretty obvious what a music geek I am. But I always say, you can't argue with Fleetwood Mac. Maybe they're not you're thing, but you can't listen to Rumours or a Greatest Hits compilation (I say that because I would give a newbie a copy of Tusk or TITN...I'd say you've gotta be into it before you appreciate those) and not get how solid this band is.

And that's what I have to say about that.

johndoe · #6 12-23-2005, 03:24 PM

With me, its hard to admit to it, because most of my friends like Zeppeling and the Beatles, but yet loath Fleetwood Mac. But a lot more people know about them then I thought. And I actually know someone else who is more obsessed than I am...and its my old gym teacher...lol. On this trip I went on for the school, we talked for like a half hour about it. My friends were kinda like "uh...why did you just talk to her about a 70s band for 15 minutes?" but it was pretty cool...

dontlookdown · #7 12-24-2005, 12:38 PM

my wife hates fleetwood mac. we've been together for 20 years and i can't seem to crack her. i took her to see lindsey on his OOTCT and she was really impressed. she also went to see FM w/ me on the Dance tour. I think she has issues with Stevie. All of her highschool boyfriends had crushes on Stevie.
Oh well. She does appreciate the musicianship but I can't make her a fan.

On all other musical fronts we connect - so whathayagonnado?

danax6 · #8 12-24-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari

You wouldn't be living in the Netherlands, would you? That all sounds pretty familiar, though it has become better the last few years. Back in the nineties, when I was still in school, I wouldn't even dare to tell some people I was a fan!
Just do your own thing, don't let other people dictate your tastes

At least you're original

I hear you. Aside from two good friends, who are just as excited as I am when I get new material and present it to them (they are not that internet savvy themselves) nobody here really cares for FM. My boss listens to them, actually asked me a copy of the FM greatest hits album for Christmas, because she used to listen to them all the time back then, but other than that she doesn't understand the obsession. Everybody else just goes

. Most of the time I don't even tell people. When a discussion about music comes up, and FM is mentioned, I just go 'oh right, yeah, I like them'. No need to get in yet another argument about whether they are that good that you need to collect bootlegs, demos and what not else. They just don't understand.

Bryan · #9 12-24-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sahara

I'm in Ireland and there's a bit of interest scattered here and there ... but not in the same realm of obsession as me -- and Angelick Witch

!!

lol! Your youthful naiivity is so cute!
Fleetwood Mac strikes a big chord with Ireland. Fans still turn out in droves to even see tribute band 'Rumours Of Fleetwood Mac' when they play here every once in a while. And Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac has been on the lower end of the album charts since ..forever,and about three or four years ago Rumours reached number 11 in the album charts having hung about the top 20 for ages and ages following renewed interest in it! There's alot of seriously obsessed fans out there!
BTW 100-102 Today FM I think are doing an hour special on the Mac on Tue at bout 6pm..listen out for it!

Sahara · #10 12-26-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan

lol! Your youthful naiivity is so cute!
Fleetwood Mac strikes a big chord with Ireland. Fans still turn out in droves to even see tribute band 'Rumours Of Fleetwood Mac' when they play here every once in a while. And Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac has been on the lower end of the album charts since ..forever,and about three or four years ago Rumours reached number 11 in the album charts having hung about the top 20 for ages and ages following renewed interest in it! There's alot of seriously obsessed fans out there!
BTW 100-102 Today FM I think are doing an hour special on the Mac on Tue at bout 6pm..listen out for it!

*mutters* Youthful naiivity my

.... Happy Christmas!! What do you mean by that?!!

Thanks for the tip off. Looking forward to that.

Serrart · #11 12-26-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elie

Thanx! No, I live in Athens, Greece. The same happens in the Netherlands eh?
I still don't dare to say that I am into them. I know it's stupid but when I get reactions like "what? are you crazy??" I am really bored to answer back.

It's very similar in Italy, when I'm lucky the answer I get is "Fleetwood Mac? The band with Stevie Nicks?" Or "Ummm... Rumours, right?" .
My friends usually are not surprised, my "strange" tastes in music and cinema aren't a news for them. And when I meet someone who makes a not so nice comment I go for fun, saying something like:
''Yes, Fleetwood Mac, you know the kind of band that use real instruments and not these unpersonal plastic computer samples tailored on sclerotic and easy- to-please audiences.

If I want to play a bit more:
Old? Well, not really. It's like to say that most prog rock even with very fresh bands like Taal are already dead. Well, Spock's Beard are a bit. It's just that to listen to copies becomes tiring don't you think? And their lyrics are archetypical, and blend very well also with today's input, Say You Will in 2003 was quite enthralling.

If I want to be really bad:
Out of times? That's interesting, it's like to say that Tsai Ming Liang movies aren't disconnective elements of 2000's vibes, or that Grotowki doesn't replicate through classics hot jazz rhythm to talk of today's society. I'm surprised you think that. Didn't you like Oasis by Lee Chang-Dong?

It doesn't have to make sense (it helps but it's not necessary), and when they start weeping or become suddenly silent you can go away smiling.

Romy

tynan88 · #12 12-26-2005, 08:48 PM

Romy you're mean

I have simila frustrations although I don't widely let it known although I have toled more people lately given how excited I am with next year's Stevie tour down under because I can't contain myself, they don't knock me down or anything but generally they just couldn't care less and find it wierd I am travelling to three cities to see the same person perform.

Villavic · #13 12-26-2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elie

The other day I gave Rumours to my best friend,

my friends do like FM, (those of my generation) but they got tired of my fanatism, ha ha. Specially in 1997 after coming back from the Reunion concert in NYC (nov.). I used to play for them the Dance CD every day...

Sometimes I get upset because they do bad jokes about my taste for FM. But now I understand them. A new friend arrived to the group, he's a fan of Gloria Estefan. I like her but.. OMG I get sick every time I visit him. It's always Gloria, Gloria, and Gloria (cd, tape, dvd, mp3, ipod, and even vynil albums!!!)

Now I've undestood and forgiven my friends. Sometines it's so annoying to have a fanatic friend.

Bumperke · #14 12-27-2005, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Serrart

It's very similar in Italy, when I'm lucky the answer I get is "Fleetwood Mac? The band with Stevie Nicks?" Or "Ummm... Rumours, right?" .
My friends usually are not surprised, my "strange" tastes in music and cinema aren't a news for them. And when I meet someone who makes a not so nice comment I go for fun, saying something like:
''Yes, Fleetwood Mac, you know the kind of band that use real instruments and not these unpersonal plastic computer samples tailored on sclerotic and easy- to-please audiences.

If I want to play a bit more:
Old? Well, not really. It's like to say that most prog rock even with very fresh bands like Taal are already dead. Well, Spock's Beard are a bit. It's just that to listen to copies becomes tiring don't you think? And their lyrics are archetypical, and blend very well also with today's input, Say You Will in 2003 was quite enthralling.

If I want to be really bad:
Out of times? That's interesting, it's like to say that Tsai Ming Liang movies aren't disconnective elements of 2000's vibes, or that Grotowki doesn't replicate through classics hot jazz rhythm to talk of today's society. I'm surprised you think that. Didn't you like Oasis by Lee Chang-Dong?

It doesn't have to make sense (it helps but it's not necessary), and when they start weeping or become suddenly silent you can go away smiling.

Romy

Europe doens't respect any Rock hero.
For me?? I'm proud beiing a Ledgie. Not into following trends and more.
If it don't fit,.. don't force it. Just look what's around you.
Example. We (Netherlands) have a chart where everyone can vote over the internet. Since 1999 up till last year, the best three.
1. Bohemian rapsody - Queen
2. Hotel California - Eagles
3. Child in time - Deep Purple.
Every storyteller can give my a warm feeling when it comes to these songs.

People say Dutch people are very open minded, progessive and so on. Maybe??
And maybe,.. that's our problem, we forget our pop roots, we suddenly like Racoon, Direct and more. Just so we have arguments and the laughs are on our side. It's not easy. But i just dan't care. My friends react like OHH NOO when i play a cd or DVD. I don't mind.
That is why this board is excisting, right?
We didn't get any info, before the internet. No shared files, and so on.
Now we have this, an exceptional site were we can slip our toughts to this world. It's the best we can do.
If Greek, German, Spanish or Dutch won't discuss FM with us, well,... we are ledgies . We are used to the fact that FM is what is is. But we still enjoy it, don't we??

Will

**mylittledemon** · #15 12-27-2005, 11:30 AM

Its extremely frustrating because all the girls I've ever dated have hated Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks. One girl, it grew on her as we dated and she now likes them. But several of my other serious relationships hated them right from the get-go.