The History of the Ledge - Page 6

Mari · #76 11-13-2005, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl

when I clicked on the link, it looked like you were the first post ar ar!

Oh yes. On the subject of Rock Snobbery, an important requirement to join the Black Ledge. Also, a Mensa-worthy IQ, the ability to post without smilies.. (I failed that one)

danax6 · #77 11-13-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

So, they're pissed off that they were banned from this site, so they go and create their own site where they only let in certain people and can ban whomever they want?

Lame, dudes. Get over it. And go revive AMFM.

Well, every community has got a dark underbelly it seems. I mod another big forum (not FM) and in the past it could get very ugly there also. We banned a few people here and there, or prohibited them from posting in certain folders, and they lashed out by opening another forum and only allowing in those 'special people'. They started badmouthing the mods and certain long time members, and spread their 'joy' over to other well-respected forums. For years now it has been us vs. them. Freaks.

I've been reading posts on the Ledge for quite a while, but didn't join in until a couple of months ago. Don't know why really, cause I like coming here.

Jyqm · #78 11-13-2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by danax6

Well, every community has got a dark underbelly it seems. I mod another big forum (not FM) and in the past it could get very ugly there also. We banned a few people here and there, or prohibited them from posting in certain folders, and they lashed out by opening another forum and only allowing in those 'special people'. They started badmouthing the mods and certain long time members, and spread their 'joy' over to other well-respected forums. For years now it has been us vs. them. Freaks.

Yeah, what freaks. Amazing that people might be resentful for being banned from a message board.

danax6 · #79 11-13-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

Yeah, what freaks. Amazing that people might be resentful for being banned from a message board.

It actually is amazing. I wish I had their problems in my life. I would be much happier.

Mari · #80 11-13-2005, 09:27 AM

another side of the story: the password thing was started after the black ledge was trolled continuously by nonbanned ledgies uuh other trolls.
I'm not saying anymore about it. It's history now and I don't think you'll ever change people's views on it. I know I can live with myself though.

Edit. What I do want to say: isn't it funny how most of those blackledgies (I won't name names because no one does, right) these days are regular posters here, some even contributors, some even *gasp* popular. Also, if you do check the black ledge.. posts going back for over a year, but about what? It's just some board where friends chat with each other. Where are all those nasty posts?
So who can move on with life and who is still dwelling in the past? You make your mind up.

Jyqm · #81 11-13-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mari

another side of the story: the password thing was started after the black ledge was trolled continuously by nonbanned ledgies uuh other trolls.

Didn't care too much for tasting their own medicine on their own turf, huh?

Jyqm · #82 11-13-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by danax6

It actually is amazing. I wish I had their problems in my life.

Right. Instead, your problems were that they were being mean so you had to ban them.

danax6 · #83 11-13-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

Right. Instead, your problems were that they were being mean so you had to ban them.

Nope, I was doing what I got hired to do. I wouldn't call that a problem.

irishgrl · #84 11-13-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

Oh, in my name.

Hell yeah they did. Victorians were one sexed-up bunch. Check out Christina Rosetti's poem "Goblin Market."

I heart Victorian British culture so hard.

I thot so. (silent "q")

thanx for the tip (poem). As for Victorian culture...other books I had read from that era were SO repressive re: women's rights...I couldnt relate. Im glad I live in America nowadays (except for the current administration ar ar)

Jyqm · #85 11-13-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl

thanx for the tip (poem). As for Victorian culture...other books I had read from that era were SO repressive re: women's rights...I couldnt relate. Im glad I live in America nowadays (except for the current administration ar ar)

Thing is, as culturally repressive as Britain (and most of Europe, really) was in a lot of ways at that time, 19th century European culture actually gave us nearly all of the social, cultural and political building blocks of the 20th (and even 21st) centuries.

Think of all of the concepts that are still so incredibly prominent and important in our lives today that simply didn't exist before the nineteenth century: evolutionary biology, socialism, capitalism, antisemitism, homosexuality, ideals of womanhood (both "Stay home and cook!" and "Let's work and vote!"), nationalism, imperialism, the rift between high art and popular art... The list just goes on and on.

The nineteenth century roolz.

estranged4life · #86 11-13-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas

Oh, gosh...I would never participate on an unmoderated message board.

on one from about 1997-2000 over at mygnr.com, but then I was made moderator (Wasnt bad, this place is EXTREMELY more tame in comparison), grew bored after a year or so and just resigned totally from the website/message board.

I do like the newer style message board over at mygnr.com over the old style board which is similar to the "Black Ledge".

I started to lurk here around 2000 and joined in June 2001...Been consistently here ever since (Though I dont feel I have anything in common with most typical FM fans outside the band's music.)

Brian "The originator of the signature quotes...Not the imitator" j.

irishgrl · #87 11-13-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

Thing is, as culturally repressive as Britain (and most of Europe, really) was in a lot of ways at that time, 19th century European culture actually gave us nearly all of the social, cultural and political building blocks of the 20th (and even 21st) centuries.

Think of all of the concepts that are still so incredibly prominent and important in our lives today that simply didn't exist before the nineteenth century: evolutionary biology, socialism, capitalism, antisemitism, homosexuality, ideals of womanhood (both "Stay home and cook!" and "Let's work and vote!"), nationalism, imperialism, the rift between high art and popular art... The list just goes on and on.

The nineteenth century roolz.

There was a HUGE cultural divide between Europe and America. We may have owed SOME of our cultural roots to Europe/Britain, but we (IMO) improved upon them. Many of the strides for Women and Minorities are homegrown. And, btw: The "ideal of womanhood" became popular thru Eleanor of Aquitaine, as did the whole flowering of Chivalry. Women's vote was a 20th century thing. I think I prefer the 20th Century actually......

danax6 · #88 11-13-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux

Maybe their lives can't be summed up by an action on the internet though.

The Burnish site had a major seperation and they turned to their own board. It doesn't sound entirely the same but I still don't see how people became "freaks" for wanting to continue to talk online. It seems common practice for some fully accepted into an online community to imply that others who do not fit in and possibly have a personal response to that, are taking it way too seriously, have far too much time on their hands and are generally pathetic. I don't see how the same cannot be applied to those who are fully accepted. It takes just as much time and effort and people often mention their personal response to the community, I can't produce a post this moment but we've all seen the ones proclaiming they enjoy being accepted, yada yada. Yet when someone has a personal response to the opposite, to not being accepted they're made out to be pathetic. I think it's a little too easy to ridicule only when it gets negative and not admit that it's possible we have just as much time on our hands and just as much placed in the whole idea.

Believe me, that is not what I meant to say at all. Those people got banned for a reason, I don't just go around banning people for fun, they have to be seriously deranged. And I think talking about killing spouses of their idols and their children just so that they can be with them (or some other person they deemed worthier than said spouses) and actually devoting an entire forum to actually plan an event like that would constitute being deranged. No?

Sorry if I gave off the wrong idea. And it doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. So rock on.

sodascouts · #89 11-13-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6

Believe me, that is not what I meant to say at all. Those people got banned for a reason, I don't just go around banning people for fun, they have to be seriously deranged. And I think talking about killing spouses of their idols and their children just so that they can be with them (or some other person they deemed worthier than said spouses) and actually devoting an entire forum to actually plan an event like that would constitute being deranged. No?

Sorry if I gave off the wrong idea. And it doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. So rock on.

DANG! That is bad! See, no matter how much people get all pissy about bannings, there are occasions where it is necessary. I realize some folks get a little too trigger happy with bannings and thread deletions, but if such things are not abused by moderators, they do serve a positive purpose. It's a fine line to walk - I run a forum, so I know. I have been fortunate though in that my forum is fairly non-controversial. I believe I have only deleted one thread and banned two people who were scary/mental types, kind of like the above, in the entire time it has been open. Not because I'm so wonderful but just because it hasn't been necessary.

David · #90 11-13-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts

DANG! That is bad! See, no matter how much people get all pissy about bannings, there are occasions where it is necessary. I realize some folks get a little too trigger happy with bannings and thread deletions, but if such things are not abused by moderators, they do serve a positive purpose. It's a fine line to walk - I run a forum, so I know. I have been fortunate though in that my forum is fairly non-controversial. I believe I have only deleted one thread and banned two people who were scary/mental types, kind of like the above, in the entire time it has been open. Not because I'm so wonderful but just because it hasn't been necessary.

For a long time now, I have wanted to post on your forum. But are they my peeps over there?