Fleetwood Mac ... with a symphony orcherstra?

[David]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Those are keyboards or synth or MIDI...

Yeah, it's more than likely a string patch on a synth or sampled strings on a workstation. Fleetwood Mac didn't hire violin & viola players & a conductor to record (although that kind of thing is common on rock albums -- Stevie even did it once or twice).

[Bumperke]

There is a disc with FM songs. Performed by the London Symphonic orchestra & Guest. Non of them people played in it.

Tracklist: Albatross, Black Magic woman, Don't Stop, Dragonfly, Future Games
Green Manalishi, Hypnotised, Jigsaw Puzzle BLues, Man Of The World, Need Your Love So Bad, Oh Well (P.1) and Oh Well (P.2), Sentimental Lady, Tusk

Will

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Those are keyboards or synth or MIDI...

*shrugs* Yeah, I know. But I've always thought they could be violins. When I thought about it a bit more and checked the credits on the sleeve I knew they weren't ... but still!

Yeah, nobody really seems to like the idea ... ah well. I'll just continue to lose myself in little daydreams about it... *contented sigh*

Although I must say, the Elton John with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra record was BRILLIANT. I could go on and on about it but I'd probably get kicked off the board...

[Angelick Witch]

Originally Posted by Sahara

Although I must say, the Elton John with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra record was BRILLIANT. I could go on and on about it but I'd probably get kicked off the board...

You definitely would. I don't know how to do it, but I'd just have to find a way.

I've been thinking about the whole orchestra thing, and I think if they did it _right_, really, really right, it'd probably be class, but I wouldn't take the risk, if I'd to choose between a "normal" concert or that. Sorry!


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[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by Sahara

*shrugs* Yeah, I know. But I've always thought they could be violins. When I thought about it a bit more and checked the credits on the sleeve I knew they weren't ... but still!

Maybe they punched the number for "violin" on their little electronic keyboard.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by David

And in Fleetwood Mac's case, it would be truly egregious because the achievement of their work isn't necessarily in the songwriting....

You're so right, in fact, it has NOTHING to do with their music (especially from the Rumours crew)...it is in the soap opera story of their lives. If Lindsey & Stevie, along with Christine & John, were all happy campers, there never would have been a Rumours. Which, come to think of it, would've been just hunky dory with me. Hate that album with a passion.

Originally Posted by Sahara

Although I must say, the Elton John with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra record was BRILLIANT.

A symphony works fine for Elton's material. It would fail miserably with Fleetwood Mac's. However, if you want to satisfy your Jones for an orchestra on a Fleetwood Mac track, listen to "Oh Well, Part 2".

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by Bumperke

There is a disc with FM songs. Performed by the London Symphonic orchestra & Guest. Non of them people played in it.

Tracklist: Albatross, Black Magic woman, Don't Stop, Dragonfly, Future Games
Green Manalishi, Hypnotised, Jigsaw Puzzle BLues, Man Of The World, Need Your Love So Bad, Oh Well (P.1) and Oh Well (P.2), Sentimental Lady, Tusk

Will

It's a lot better than you might think too - the older songs work very well, particularly Green Manalishi and Dragonfly, but the BN-era ones just don't. Many of the older songs are able to be pushed and pulled around, rearranged and reworked and they still come out brilliantly - I think a lot fewer of the BN-era songs could stand up to it. Maybe some of Chris's could.

[estranged4life]

have played with orchestra's that sound fine to my ears:

Steve Vai & The Dutch Metropole Orchestra-The Aching Hunger (Not officially released...Yet??!!)

Yngwie Malmsteen-Concerto Suite for Electric Guitar and Orchestra in E flat minor Op.1 (Strictly an orchestra piece instead of doing known rock songs with the orchestra backing)

Metallica-S&M (Only because the late/great Michael Kamen was involved...)

If Rumours era Fleetwood Mac and/or Stevie Nicks did a recording with an orchestra I wouldnt be a fan of it...Their music, to my ears (Excluding Beauty & the Beast), just would not transfer live in that environment.

[Mari]

Oh, there's a killer version of U2 with probably that same Dutch orchestra playing 'Please'. On a bside of one of their Pop singles.
Some musicstyles work great with orchestra's.
Others... Eurovision songfestival, anyone? Eek!

[Angelick Witch]

Originally Posted by chiliD

If Lindsey & Stevie, along with Christine & John, were all happy campers, there never would have been a Rumours. Which, come to think of it, would've been just hunky dory with me. Hate that album with a passion.

Firstly, you're so right, the music would've been nothing like what it was if they'd been happy. Or even just not watching their lives go up in flames.

Secondly, even if you don't like that album, and I guess I can understand that (even if I happen to disagree with a passion), they mightn't have gotten anywhere if Rumours had been different, they might have decided it wasn't worth it, Stevie & Lindsey might've left again, God know what might have happened!

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Angelick Witch

Firstly, you're so right, the music would've been nothing like what it was if they'd been happy. Or even just not watching their lives go up in flames.

Secondly, even if you don't like that album, and I guess I can understand that (even if I happen to disagree with a passion), they mightn't have gotten anywhere if Rumours had been different, they might have decided it wasn't worth it, Stevie & Lindsey might've left again, God know what might have happened!

You can't disagree that I don't like the album...I don't like the album, that's "fact", not "opinion"...you can't disagree with "fact".

My main dislike/hate/loathing of the album is due to overkill...overkill from radio airplay...overkill from the band basically promoting it for 30 years...overkill from FM message board fans professing it is the greatest album of all-time...overkill that it is the "be-all, end-all" benchmark of Fleetwood Mac's career...overkill that it is perceived that the members who created it are the "be-all, end-all" incarnation of the band. There was a time, oh so long ago, that I actually LIKED Rumours, LIKED Lindsey & Stevie, LIKED that Fleetwood Mac was so famous & popular, etc. But, over time, I just have gotten ILL from the whole Rumours phenomenon.


If there was no Rumours, and Lindsey & Stevie left the band, Fleetwood Mac would've done what they always did, get new people & carry on making good music.

[golddustwoman77]

IMO, I would love for them to go the total opposite way. I wish they would tour, and the only band members that were on the stage were Stevie, Mick, Lindsey, John, and Christine. I long for an old school concert from them. The band stripped down--no over production---just them.

I think that bands sometimes think that bigger is better. I disagree. I saw Paul McCartney on Tuesday night, and it was terrific! The only thing on that stage was Paul, Wix, Rusty, Abe, and Brian. It was just a basic band and still totally awesome.

I wish for that day for the Mac, but alas I doubt I'll see it.

[DavidMn]

No thanks. Just the musicians and their instruments for me please

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by golddustwoman77

I think that bands sometimes think that bigger is better. I disagree.

Bit of a silly blanket statement, though, isn't it? I agree that it makes for a good general rule for most rock bands, but there are exceptions, even within the realm of Fleetwood Mac. Surely I'm not the only who thinks "Tusk" and "Don't Stop" from The Dance are pretty spectacular performances, with the whole marching band up there and all?

[golddustwoman77]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Bit of a silly blanket statement, though, isn't it? I agree that it makes for a good general rule for most rock bands, but there are exceptions, even within the realm of Fleetwood Mac. Surely I'm not the only who thinks "Tusk" and "Don't Stop" from The Dance are pretty spectacular performances, with the whole marching band up there and all?

I agree that there are times that a spectacular performance does come out of all that "over production," such as your two examples. I was just saying in recent years, bands (especially during concerts) have been getting away from just having the regular musicians in a band playing music and going for a much larger band and a lot more production. I was just saying that I would like for Fleetwood Mac to do a tour with just the regular band members for a change, not in every situation.