9/11 - What About PA and DC?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Well, even if it was shot down (which I still am not to sure I believe)...I still believe that every single person (besides the terrorists) in that plane was a hero for what they tried to do...I just don't want that taken away from them.

Who's doing anything of the sort?

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

No, he sat there petrified reading a book to children while thousands of Americans were dying. Personally, I think he and his cronies were caught so off guard they were scared shiitteless and did not know where to go and hide - so they stayed in the secured area.

what was Bill Clinton doing when he was notified about the Murrah Building in downtown OKC? Did he mention what he first thought of the bombing in his book?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

what was Bill Clinton doing when he was notified about the Murrah Building in downtown OKC? Did he mention what he first thought of the bombing in his book?

This site has some minor info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahom...ntial_response

But, I do not remember what Billy C. was doing then.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think there is a huge cover up about the Murrah building and it was evident in the trial and the witnesses called.

how the 911 mastermind Atta was in the same hotel in the Phillipines on the same day that one Terry Nichols was...Another coverup is the one with the 100+ credible eyewitnesses stating that the John Doe #2 in the Ryder truck was and is one Jose Padilla.

Various writers on the Murrah conspiracy have found proof that this did indeed happen (The hotel in the Phillipines, Gotta be interesting since Terry Nichols married a woman from the Phillipines)...Makes ya wonder dont it?

Why dont Michael "Ego Maniac" Moore do a doctumentary about OKC?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

LOL - you have got to stop getting your info from that woman - she lies


http://www.ppionline.org/ndol/print....ntentid=251793

She's dead...tenses please.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I don't think anyone is trying to do that here. They are just noting that it is possible the govt. shot it down and if it did, why the cover up.

Interestingly, the plane that crashed a month or so later after leaving JFK was also under suspicious circumstances.

I have often wondered about that plane. We never really heard too much about it later on.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

She's dead...tenses please.

I was talking about Ann Coulter - but if she is dead, well, DING DONG indeed

Also, how could you get "facts" from something you hypothesized Mrs. Olsen would have said

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I have often wondered about that plane. We never really heard too much about it later on.

I suppose it is possible for a tail section to come off like that due to pilot error. But, what are the odds?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I was talking about Ann Coulter - but if she is dead, well, DING DONG indeed

Also, how could you get "facts" from something you hypothesized Mrs. Olsen would have said

I never mentioned Ann, so why were you talking about her.

And actually Barbara DID have a lot to say about the Clinton Administration and his lack of military funding, saying that if there was a war...basically we would be up "**** creek", in her book that was published after her death (she was on her way actually to california for an appearnce on PI with Bill Maher...he left a seat open in her memory after the show started again). It was actually supposed to come out two days after Sept. 11 but of course it was put off after the tragedy and released later that year in her memory.

The Final Days: The Last, Desperate Abuses of Power by the Clinton White House (Barbara Olson)

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

how the 911 mastermind Atta was in the same hotel in the Phillipines on the same day that one Terry Nichols was

There's a lot of dirt out there on Atta. He was certainly not the religious fundamentalist he was portrayed to be. Wasn't he connected to Barry Seal at some point?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I suppose it is possible for a tail section to come off like that due to pilot error. But, what are the odds?

A statistician I'm not. But I'd say they're astronomical.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I never mentioned Ann, so why were you talking about her.

And actually Barbara DID have a lot to say about the Clinton Administration and his lack of military funding, saying that if there was a war...basically we would be up "**** creek", in her book that was published after her death (she was on her way actually to california for an appearnce on PI with Bill Maher...he left a seat open in her memory after the show started again). It was actually supposed to come out two days after Sept. 11 but of course it was put off after the tragedy and released later that year in her memory.

The Final Days: The Last, Desperate Abuses of Power by the Clinton White House (Barbara Olson)

I mentioned Ann because I routinely point out that you know little true facts about anything because you seem to get your stuff from Coulter - who does not make truly facutal statements. I thought the connection was clear.

As for Olsen - who gives a shiitte if she did, she was wrong as that article I posted clearly demonstrated and as the campaigns in Iraq and Afgan clearly demonstrate. But, as always, if you have proof to the contrary, let's see it

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I suppose it is possible for a tail section to come off like that due to pilot error. But, what are the odds?

or better known as the rudder can, on rare occassions, suffer complete failure and create 'drag' on the flight path of the plane, So much drag can accumalate that it can tear the tail off the plane...I am surprised most people dont realize how fragile a plane can be in regards to affecting pressures.

Why it is theoritically possible, I have yet to see that happen myself.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

He was certainly not the religious fundamentalist he was portrayed to be. Wasn't he connected to Barry Seal at some point?

but there has been reports Atta 'had his hands in many a cookie jar'.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I mentioned Ann because I routinely point out that you know little true facts about anything because you seem to get your stuff from Coulter - who does not make truly facutal statements. I thought the connection was clear.

As for Olsen - who gives a shiitte if she did, she was wrong as that article I posted clearly demonstrated and as the campaigns in Iraq and Afgan clearly demonstrate. But, as always, if you have proof to the contrary, let's see it

First of all..."Dereliction of Duty" by Lt Col Buzz Patterson. A "must read".

Then let's look at...

BILL CLINTON's Service Record before becoming Commander in Chief:

Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col. E. Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'.

Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1,1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!

Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from Carter. Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.

All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington,D.C. that are now dead, would be alive today.

AN INTERESTING QUESTION: This question was raised on a Philly radio call-in show. Without casting stones, it is a legitimate question. There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity.

The other sponsors terrorism.

That being the case, why was it that the Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama bin Laden?

THINK ABOUT IT!