Did he or didn't he?

[gldstwmn]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/23/sp...armstrong.html
Armstrong Fends Off New Drug Accusations


PARIS, Aug. 23 - In a major challenge to Lance Armstrong's domination of the Tour de France, the French sports newspaper L'Équipe charged today that the American rider frequently used an illegal performance-enhancing drug in 1999 to win his first of seven consecutive Tours.

Armstrong, 33 years old, who retired July 24 after his latest victory, strongly denied the charge.

He has been under suspicion and investigated a handful of times since his comeback in 1999 from testicular cancer, but has never been proven guilty of doping.

"Unfortunately, the witch hunt continues," he said on his Web site, adding that the "article is nothing short of tabloid journalism."

"I will simply restate what I have said many times: I have never taken performance-enhancing drugs."

L'Équipe devoted four pages to its charges, beginning with a front-page banner headline, "The Armstrong Lie." In an accompanying editorial, the newspaper stated flatly that "Lance Armstrong has used EPO," the banned erythropoietin, to increase the red blood corpuscles that carry oxygen to muscles.

"After a long, painstaking and rigorous investigation, L'Équipe publishes today the proof," the editorial continued.

On inside pages, the paper reproduced what it said were EPO tests of frozen urine samples taken from riders during the 1999 Tour.

Six samples that the paper said were taken from Armstrong proved positive for the "indisputable" use of EPO, the paper said. It added that six other samples from riders who were not identified had also proven positive. "It cannot be regarded as a positive test in the strict regulatory sense," the newspaper said, doubting that French sanctions were likely. However, it continued, the World Antidoping Agency or the U.S. Antidoping Agency could act.

The tests were done at the Chatenay- Malabry laboratory outside Paris last year, the specialist doping facility confirmed. No tests for EPO were available in 1999, and the urine samples were tested in 2004 to help scientists refine detection methods, the paper said. It explained that its reporters had matched the six-digit labels identifying each sample with forms filed with the French Cycling Federation during the Tour. Those forms, filled out each time a sample was taken in a drug test, identified the donor by name as well as the six digits on his urine sample.

L'Équipe reproduced both what it said were the results of the laboratory's tests, with sample number, and the forms with the same number and Armstrong's name. To a layman, the laboratory chart was nearly incomprehensible, except for its table of sample numbers. A low number presumably signifying EPO levels could be marked positive in a nearby column while a much higher number could be marked negative.

But Jean-Marie Leblanc, the director of the Tour de France, called the paper's report "very complete, very professional, very meticulous." He said on RTL radio that the charge "appears credible." Leblanc added that disciplinary action seemed unlikely since the tests were based on only the second, or B, urine sample taken during the race. The A sample was tested in 1999 and not frozen.

Both L'Équipe and the Tour de France organization are owned by the Amaury Sports Organisation and work out of the same building.

As he continued to win the Tour de France year in and year out, Armstrong has occasionally been the target of doping suspicions in L'Équipe. These doubts accelerated each time he or his team, previously sponsored by U.S. Postal Service and now by Discovery Channel, has come under judicial inquiry. Investigations in France and Italy have been unfruitful. Armstrong has tested positive for drugs only once, during the 1999 Tour. That finding was wiped out when he produced a medical certificate allowing him to use a banned drug to heal a saddle sore.

But the continuing suspicions have embroiled Armstrong in at least four court suits that are still to be heard. In what seems to be the biggest one, he is suing The Sunday Times of London for reprinting doping charges made in a book, "L.A. Confidential, the Secrets of Lance Armstrong," in 2004. The other cases involve an Italian rider, a former personal assistant who, like Armstrong, is a Texan and an American insurance company that has refused to pay a bonus of several million dollars to the rider because of its doubts about his Tour victory two years ago.

In the month since he retired, Armstrong has been spending his time with his three children, with his companion, the singer Sheryl Crow, and with work for his foundation to combat cancer. On Saturday, he visited President Bush's ranch and rode with him on mountain bikes across the Texas landscape. Armstrong is a member of the President's Council on Cancer and has pressed him for more research funds.

[dissention]

Of course. Only drugs could make someone ride around with Shrub for television cameras like Lance did last week.

[SuzeQuze]

I chose I don't know but I think he probably did it. I hope not though.

[WELSH WITCH]

He must have, no one can ride up a mountain like that without taking something. He didn't even have one bad day in the Tour de France, everyone has at least one.

But okay, innocent until proven guilty I guess.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Nope... I don't believe he did.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

I chose I don't know but I think he probably did it. I hope not though.

I'm with you.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dissention

Of course. Only drugs could make someone ride around with Shrub for television cameras like Lance did last week.

Did you notice that Lance rode just a bit behind his majesty?

[GypsySorcerer]

I think he probably did.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by dissention

Of course. Only drugs could make someone ride around with Shrub for television cameras like Lance did last week.

Love your avatar by the way

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

Love your avatar by the way

Who is that?

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Who is that?

It's the youngest kid from Malcolm in the Middle.

[estranged4life]

but being married to a cancer survivor who had taken chemo-therapy that contained a great amount of steroids (For example, To ease the pain of nausea) , I wouldnt be surprised if he did.

Doesnt matter now since he retired anyways.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

Love your avatar by the way

Dewey, the baby is not talking to you through my womb!

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Who is that?

It's Dewey from Malcolm In the Middle. He? Is hysterical.

[seeker007nmss]

I say no. If the French came up with it, because the are annoyed at an American dominating their little race, then it can't be true.

[LiquidBlue5000]

It's all Sheryl's fault... the woman is pure evil.... EVIL!