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Old 08-14-2005, 08:02 PM
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I told Joshua the other day that I wouldn't be surprised if Stevie retires now or very soon.
The death of Christine's father seemed to exacerbate her desire to quit touring and to spend more time at home with loved ones, and I can see the passing of Mr. Nicks having the same effect on Stevie.

the fact that she seemed to have this "whats the point of recording a new album if no one is gonna buy it" attitude before all of this happened, i'm gonna say that that has probably doubled at this point...

i mean, she's sorta done it all... and her life is changing... i think it's sad that her last two solo tours have been lowlighted with two tragic events (9/11 in 2001 and now her father passing).

Psycologically, that in itself may have an effect on her...

i hope she can bounce back and continue on... but i dunno... i had the sense in Las Vegas that that was going to be her last solo concert ever.. i told everyone around me about my feeling... i hope i was wrong, but i think i could very well have been right
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:41 PM
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the fact that she seemed to have this "whats the point of recording a new album if no one is gonna buy it" attitude before all of this happened, i'm gonna say that that has probably doubled at this point...

i mean, she's sorta done it all... and her life is changing... i think it's sad that her last two solo tours have been lowlighted with two tragic events (9/11 in 2001 and now her father passing).

Psycologically, that in itself may have an effect on her...

i hope she can bounce back and continue on... but i dunno... i had the sense in Las Vegas that that was going to be her last solo concert ever.. i told everyone around me about my feeling... i hope i was wrong, but i think i could very well have been right
I still say Stevie never said "Why make an an album if it won't sell well"... that comment was implied by the journalist- not Stevie, in my opinion.
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:04 PM
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the fact that she seemed to have this "whats the point of recording a new album if no one is gonna buy it" attitude before all of this happened, i'm gonna say that that has probably doubled at this point...

i mean, she's sorta done it all... and her life is changing... i think it's sad that her last two solo tours have been lowlighted with two tragic events (9/11 in 2001 and now her father passing).

Psycologically, that in itself may have an effect on her...

i hope she can bounce back and continue on... but i dunno... i had the sense in Las Vegas that that was going to be her last solo concert ever.. i told everyone around me about my feeling... i hope i was wrong, but i think i could very well have been right
Well, first of all, 9/11 is a different story because it was a tragedy that happened during her TISL solo tour, and was a world event. It had a major impact on her tour because some people didn't attend, and didn't buy anymore tickets. Excitment for her tour was not a priority for people anymore, and through her concerts, Stevie tried to give people hope and ease them of their pain. With her father passing, that happened after her solo tour was over, and did not have an affect on her performance during the tour, or on the amount of tickets purchesed, and excited fans attending the concerts. So to compare the two doesn't work because they are two different circumstances in which one had an affect on her 2001 TISL solo tour, and the other did not affect her just completed 2005 summer solo tour.
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:09 PM
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With her father passing, that happened after her solo tour was over, and did not have an affect on her performance during the tour, or on the amount of tickets purchesed, and excited fans attending the concerts. So to compare the two doesn't work because they are two different circumstances in which one had an affect on her 2001 TISL solo tour, and the other did not affect her just completed 2005 summer solo tour.

i beg to differ that her father didnt affect her performance on this tour... she was crying during "landslide" in Phoenix after dedicating it to her dad, so something must have been up... and while they are two completely different tragedies, they are still two tragedies that overshadowed both of her last two solo tours....
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:17 PM
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i beg to differ that her father didnt affect her performance on this tour... she was crying during "landslide" in Phoenix after dedicating it to her dad, so something must have been up... and while they are two completely different tragedies, they are still two tragedies that overshadowed both of her last two solo tours....
Very true, her father's illness did have an affect on her recent performances, but that doesn't automatically mean she will stop performing or recording because of the tragedy of her father's passing or the tragedy of 9/11. I think because of these two tragedies, people look up to her to stay strong, and give them hope and peace through her own self, and through her own music. (which is the one thing that keeps her strong through these hard times)

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Old 08-14-2005, 11:19 PM
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i beg to differ that her father didnt affect her performance on this tour... she was crying during "landslide" in Phoenix after dedicating it to her dad, so something must have been up... and while they are two completely different tragedies, they are still two tragedies that overshadowed both of her last two solo tours....
This is true, as much as I hate to say it, I don't care what anyone says, after she 'd announced to us all (in phoenix) that her dad had broken his leg, she seemed distracted, and just ready for the preformance to be over. Understandably so.
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:23 PM
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Does anyone (besides me) think that this tragedy could re-open the door for Stevie to release another solo album, and have it dedicated to her father, and the impact he has had on her life?
Yea... I touched on this in a few threads, but nobody picked it up so I guess I should have started a "new" thread on the subject. Or maybe it's me... I'm either too lame or I smell bad.

But, um.. definitely, lots of good new stuff.

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the fact that she seemed to have this "whats the point of recording a new album if no one is gonna buy it" attitude before all of this happened, i'm gonna say that that has probably doubled at this point...

i mean, she's sorta done it all... and her life is changing... i think it's sad that her last two solo tours have been lowlighted with two tragic events (9/11 in 2001 and now her father passing).

Psycologically, that in itself may have an effect on her...

i hope she can bounce back and continue on... but i dunno... i had the sense in Las Vegas that that was going to be her last solo concert ever.. i told everyone around me about my feeling... i hope i was wrong, but i think i could very well have been right
I agree. I am sure she could do a benefit here and there but I have said all along, this was her last solo tour. People just do not want to believe that though. She was sooo good for reasons besides the love of it. Maybe looking forward to a new life might have been part of it.
As far as a new album goes, there will be no new album.
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Very true, her father's illness did have an affect on her recent performances, but that doesn't automatically mean she will stop performing or recording because of the tragedy of her father's passing or the tragedy of 9/11. I think because of these two tragedies, people look up to her to stay strong, and give them hope and peace through her own self, and through her own music. (which is the one thing that keeps her strong through these hard times)
She has pretty much finally admitted that she wanted to stop recording. The stuff about "no one hearing it" was brought up by the interviewer and Stevie latched on to that. She really could not just stand up and say, "hey I dont want to complete my contractual obligations" when she owes WB two albums.
As far as staying strong for her fans, well that is just too much to put on her shoulders. 9/11 had a huge impact on Stevie's life...perhaps it made her realize she want so spend time with her loved ones even more? The loss of her Father has devastated her and she really does not have to stay strong. She lost one of her best friends, her closest family member and it is ok if she wants to fall apart for awhile. She does not owe us anything. It is certainly not her responsiblity to help us through our own tragedies, IMHO. She has done for others for decades and at this point in her life, she might be looking for something different.
Stevie trying to "stay strong" after Robin's death had tragic consequences. She needs time to grieve, time to reflect and time to relax. An album is the last thing on her mind. Writing is probably very theraputic and she is most likely writing like a mad woman. However, that does not mean she will turn her constant writing into new songs. Stevie will always write.


Did someone say above that her performance was not affected this tour by her Dad's illness?? Wow. Of course it was.
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Hmmm its sad to think she might retire, I have never seen her perform...I have never anticipated a new album but I want her to be happy, and if retiring makes her happy so be it, but unless Stevie has changed I think she will always want to perform and create, it seems in her spirit but either way I totally respect her choice.
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She has pretty much finally admitted that she wanted to stop recording. The stuff about "no one hearing it" was brought up by the interviewer and Stevie latched on to that. She really could not just stand up and say, "hey I dont want to complete my contractual obligations" when she owes WB two albums.
As far as staying strong for her fans, well that is just too much to put on her shoulders. 9/11 had a huge impact on Stevie's life...perhaps it made her realize she want so spend time with her loved ones even more? The loss of her Father has devastated her and she really does not have to stay strong. She lost one of her best friends, her closest family member and it is ok if she wants to fall apart for awhile. She does not owe us anything. It is certainly not her responsiblity to help us through our own tragedies, IMHO. She has done for others for decades and at this point in her life, she might be looking for something different.
Stevie trying to "stay strong" after Robin's death had tragic consequences. She needs time to grieve, time to reflect and time to relax. An album is the last thing on her mind. Writing is probably very theraputic and she is most likely writing like a mad woman. However, that does not mean she will turn her constant writing into new songs. Stevie will always write.


Did someone say above that her performance was not affected this tour by her Dad's illness?? Wow. Of course it was.
I'm not saying that she owes us anything. All i'm saying is that she has represented a strong shoulder to lean on through hard times in many people's lives, whether it be family, friends, or fans. And of coarse she has the right to grieve...because she just lost her father of almost 60 years! All i'm saying is that it does not mean that she will automatically leave the music business because of it. Does she have the right to if she decides to do so...yes, because no one is stopping her, and if she feels that she has done all she can do for this business, than she has the right to retire and live her life as she pleases. Do i want her to retire...no, but if she feels that it is time to, i totally respect that, because it is her life, and she is in charge of it.
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:31 AM
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Wait a minute... what's up with all of this talk about retirement and packing it in, etc.? There was that ONE interview she gave where the interviewier added his own spin about the future of her recording career. But what about all of those other interviews earlier in the tour where Stevie was quoted as being in a really great place in her life and that she was excited about the future and that she had a lot of good years left in her, and that she would be doing this until she has to be wheeled onstage? What about the "Rhiannon" project? What about the Australian orchestral tour? It just doesn't make any sense to me why everybody thinks this is the end of the end .

As for the death of her father, it has definitely been a profoundly horrible loss for the family. But it seems like it was a while coming. And even though many may feel that Stevie is fragile and lives in a fantasy world, even she is "real" enough to understand death and mortality. And she, just like most everyone else in the world, realizes that losing a parent is just one of those inevitable aspects of life. It happens. It's terribly sad, but it's not tragic. And she can take comfort in knowing that Jess left the world knowing that his daughter had turned her life around and was going to be okay after all. It doesn't stop her for her. If anything, I think she will be inspired anew to sing new songs about her father to new audiences.
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Uhmmmm -

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1.) Rocket-Powered Wheelchair.

2.) Rocking Chair + Chiffon.

3.) "I think she'll be doing this for donkee's years! . . . .


Besides, how would Mick ever be able to keep perfect time without

her! C'mon, YOU'VE seen her counting for him! . . .

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These very same discussions have been going on related to Fleetwood Mac for how long now? She herself has constantly said she will never stop. Fleetwood Mac has been officially over numerous times. And when was the last Fleetwood Mac album? Tour?
Agreed. She is not done yet. We will see another solo album and tour, at least one of each. She has stated over and over that she will keep on rocking until she physically cannot, and I do not think she is there yet!
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