The US could learn a thing or two from Britain

irishgrl · #1 08-05-2005, 06:51 AM

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U.K. to Institute New Deportation Measures

LONDON - Prime Minister
Tony Blair on Friday announced new deportation measures against people who foster hatred and advocate violence following last month's transportation attacks that killed 52 people and four suspected suicide bombers.

Clerics who preach hate and Web sites or book shops that sponsor violence would be targeted. Foreign nationals could be deported under the new measures.

Blair said his government was prepared to amend human rights legislation if necessary if legal challenges arose from the new deportation measures.

Britain's ability to deport foreign nationals has been hampered by human rights legislation. As a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights, Britain is not allowed to deport people to a country where they may face torture or death.

"Let no one be in any doubt that the rules of the games are changing," Blair said, promising to crack down on extremists blamed for radicalizing pockets of Muslim youth.

By the year's end, Blair wants to pass legislation that would outlaw "indirect incitement" of terrorism — targeting extremist Islamic clerics who glorify acts of terrorism and seduce impressionable Muslim youth.

The law would ban receiving training in terrorist techniques in Britain or abroad. A new offense of "acts preparatory to terrorism" would outlaw planning an attack and activities such as acquiring bomb-making instructions on the Internet.

Blair said his government would hold a short, one-month consultation on new grounds for excluding and deporting people from the United Kingdom.

"The Muslim community have been and are our partners in this endeavor," said Blair, who has appealed to community leaders to help roots out extremists in their midst.

I sincerely hope Monkey Boy is paying attention but he's probably rooting around for a banana.

seeker007nmss · #2 08-05-2005, 06:52 AM

Damn our first Amendment!

irishgrl · #3 08-05-2005, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

Damn our first Amendment!

I agree with Blair: The rules are changing.

seeker007nmss · #4 08-05-2005, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl

I agree with Blair: The rules are changing.

Actually, The US has denied Visas to enter here the last few weeks. One cleric had to go to Canada...then back home. They wouldn't let him in.

irishgrl · #5 08-05-2005, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

Actually, The US has denied Visas to enter here the last few weeks. One cleric had to go to Canada...then back home. They wouldn't let him in.

Good. its a start. If we crack down like Britain is doing, it might send a message to the Muslim communities that they now have a choice: either cooperate with authorities and turn these assholes IN or stay silent and be considered part of the problem (and thus, be treated as such) Its their choice.

SuzeQuze · #6 08-05-2005, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl

I sincerely hope Monkey Boy is paying attention but he's probably rooting around for a banana.

On his ranch because he is away from the White House for a scheduled 5 weeks, a record time away from the White House, the longest in 36 years. The 5 weeks is partly vacation and partly I don't know. From the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...201703_pf.html

macfanken · #7 08-05-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

On his ranch because he is away from the White House for a scheduled 5 weeks, a record time away from the White House, the longest in 36 years. The 5 weeks is partly vacation and partly I don't know. From the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...201703_pf.html

What kind of a President takes a five week vacation in the middle of a war?!

madformac · #8 08-05-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by macfanken

What kind of a President takes a five week vacation in the middle of a war?!

The last one your nation elected.....

skcin · #9 08-05-2005, 12:33 PM

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The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- nearly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.

Good God, this doesn't even include weekends & holidays? Who voted this A-hole into office?

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Until now, probably no modern president was a more famous vacationer than Ronald Reagan, who loved spending time at his ranch in Santa Barbara, Calif. According to an Associated Press count, Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term.

Nice.

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"The Oval Office is wherever the president of the United States is," said Kenneth M. Duberstein, who was Reagan's last White House chief of staff. "With the communications being what they are, the president can communicate instantly with whomever he wants anywhere in the world."

Well if he tries to call me, he'll be getting an earful.

irishgrl · #10 08-05-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by madformac

The last one your nation elected.....

that wasnt an election, that was a hijack of voting machines

madformac · #11 08-05-2005, 01:44 PM

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that wasnt an election, that was a hijack of voting machines

I don't think some voters even got as close as a hijack in Jeb's state.........

irishgrl · #12 08-05-2005, 02:34 PM

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I don't think some voters even got as close as a hijack in Jeb's state.........

not the first time anyway....and Ohio...........what a mess.....

gldstwmn · #13 08-05-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by madformac

The last one your nation elected.....

That would be Clinton.

gldstwmn · #14 08-05-2005, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

Good God, this doesn't even include weekends & holidays? Who voted this A-hole into office?

The Supreme Court and Diebold.

gldstwmn · #15 08-05-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term.

And he was senile...

When he was to be deposed about Iran Contra, he was unable to tell the attorney his name. I think that's part of the reason they let him finish his term and just indicted everybody else.