What's up with all the Sheryl Crow hating?

[GODDESS6]

i have always loved sheryl, even before teaming up with stevie, she has sustinence (*sp) as an artist, i love her live & was so happy when she did team up w/ stevie, i think they are great together!!!~

[HejiraNYC]

I am a Sheryl Crow fan from the old school- back from when she was playing little clubs, etc. And I love the way she has evolved over the years to this big time rock n roller who can still put out a good rootsy groove combined with great pop hooks and soaring vocals. That being said, with the exception of "Sorcerer," I HATE HATE HATE Sheryl's contributions to TISL. Quite simply the woman has no business being behind the control board, as evidenced by her spotty 1996 self-produced follow-up to her stellar debut album produced by Bill Bottrell. Sheryl brings nothing inventive or musically interesting to the studio. For lack of a better term, her productions tend to sound "muddy" and unfocused with lots of superfluous elements. She sometimes just needs to realize that less is more. Also, the reason why "If You Ever Did Believe" turned out so great is because Sheryl (for once) had the good sense to record it just like the demo. Stevie really should have taken the producer credit for that- Sheryl merely recreated the arrangements note-for-note.

By contrast, John Shanks was/is a MASTER producer and makes the Sheryl productions sound amateurish by comparison. Even Stevie herself once said that Sheryl did not know what to do with a song like "Trouble in Shangri-la." He may have taken a lot of crap for making some of the songs sound a bit "metallic," but the thing I loved about his songs is that he pushed Stevie's sound into a fresh new arena while being mindful of her trademark ethereal darkness. But why oh why did he have to spoil the pot with "Every Day?" Argh! John, keep your day job as a producer, not a songwriter.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by dissention

I LOVE AND ADORE SHERYL CROW.

Me too! I couldn't understand the hate either

[littlecricket2]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Even Stevie herself once said that Sheryl did not know what to do with a song like "Trouble in Shangri-la."

I thought it was "Fall From Grace" that Stevie said Sheryl didn't know what to do with. I remember this on the Rosie O'Donnell show. Rosie was raving about "Fall From Grace" and Stevie told her that it almost didn't make the album because Sheryl couldn't figure out what to do with it.

That said, I respect Sheryl's musical talent and dedication--and I own some of her clothes, , so I can't hate on her too much.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

By contrast, John Shanks was/is a MASTER producer and makes the Sheryl productions sound amateurish by comparison. Argh!

God I couldn't disagree more. I hope Stevie doesn't use Shanks in the future. Yep, let's polish all the tracks of any character, great idea. What a bad idea to add a pseudo-dance feel to Planets Of The Universe. Mutton dressed up as lamb indeed.

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by eclipse

I am an older member of the Ledge, so allow me to reminiece (sp), The thing about Sheryl Crow to me is that she reminds me of Carol King-
Any one remember her? (How I hope someone does
I don't think her voice is all that interesting or good- in fact , I don't really care for her singing.
That said-
I really like what she writes- she has a large volume of work, I am especially fond of the darker moodier tunes, i.e. Weather Channel, Safe and Sound, to name a few...and actually to contradict myself, I DO like her vocals on those 2 songs...So I guess I am not making a very valid opinion!

Just something about her tiny, Texas , twang-y, y'all attitude that just "bugs" me.

Just a thought...
~~eclipse~~

This reminded me of one of Sheryl's songs that I really like - it's called Home. Really nice, dark tune about a fading relationship.

Your comment about her "tiny, Texas , twang-y, y'all attitude" really gave me a good laugh. Thanks!

[eclipse]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

This reminded me of one of Sheryl's songs that I really like - it's called Home. Really nice, dark tune about a fading relationship.

Your comment about her "tiny, Texas , twang-y, y'all attitude" really gave me a good laugh. Thanks!

Karma...
Even though I live in New Hampshire and am a New Englander, through and through, love the winters and my mountains, ...even have the accent
And I have NEVER been to Texas,
just wanted you to know that I am happy I made you laugh cuz....
"I sure aim to please, Maa'm, and now I'm fixin to think up somethin else funny to say... Y'all have a good day now..."
haha
~~eclipse~~

[dissention]

Originally Posted by sparky

Nothing but love for Sheryl from me. Jake has a point about those songs - there seems a bit of bass or meat missing from them. BUT, I think Stevie was lucky Sheryl had time to work with her. It's Only Love is one of my favorite songs on TISL, and one of Sheryl's best when she did it on C'mon C'mon. The strings at the end are genius and heartbreaking. I think Sheryl is the cat's pajamas. And she's hot.

Oh, man. I made a Sheryl mix CD and put It's Only Love and Safe and Sound back to back; it gives me chills every time I listen to it. Brilliant.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

I never got the feeling that everyone here HATES her personally...

I dont like some of her production on TISL, but that's just personal taste..I just prefer John Shanks' work on TISL...


I dont think there need to be anything to BACKUP factually why someone doesnt like Crow, they are entitled to that..Altho I love her..have 4 of her albums, and I think she's one of the greats. I do love Candlebright, altho I thought Sorcerer album version came out a little weak...

Chris

[deribish]

Can somebody explain why the Dixie Chicks hate Sheryl now? i thought they were all good friends?

thanks.
-derek

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Originally Posted by deribish

Can somebody explain why the Dixie Chicks hate Sheryl now? i thought they were all good friends?

thanks.
-derek

I didnt think they hated her now, I've never heard that

Chris

[dissention]

Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

I never got the feeling that everyone here HATES her personally...

I dont like some of her production on TISL, but that's just personal taste..I just prefer John Shanks' work on TISL...


I dont think there need to be anything to BACKUP factually why someone doesnt like Crow, they are entitled to that..Altho I love her..have 4 of her albums, and I think she's one of the greats. I do love Candlebright, altho I thought Sorcerer album version came out a little weak...

Chris

They should have used the "Sheryl Crow Mix" on the album instead, but that's just my opinion.

[GateandGarden]

I don't hate her but I don't like what she did with "Fall From Grace." I pretty much don't like that song at all and she didn't help.

Also, when "Soak Up the Sun" was popular, I really wanted to gouge my eyes out and plug my ears every time the video came on. I just hate that song so much. Every once in awhile a popular song comes along that I detest passionately, and that was one of them. I'm not a fan of "All I Wanna Do Is Have Some Fun," either. I do have a fondness for "Every Day is a Winding Road," and I also like the way she sounds singing back-up on "Sorcerer," though. But in general, as someone else already said, I'm not a huge fan of her voice or her style.

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

I didnt think they hated her now, I've never heard that

Chris

I haven't ever heard of that, either.

[LeighB04]

Nothing against her personally, but I find listening to more than one song at a time can be monotonous - her voice is rather bland and lacking passion. HOWEVER, I love the duet she did with Pavarotti at War Child, where she brings out her opera training on "La Ci Darem La Mano" - wonderful stuff!