What's that song where the school children start chanting at the end?

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

I'm just saying that popularity is not a gauge of quality.

Don't get me wrong... I've never felt it was either.

At any rate, and as I said, t'was only meant as a joke.

[SteveMacD]

All in all I'm just another hick in the mall

[HomerMcvie]

I think, in terms of radio, Tusk is one of the most adventurous singles ever produced. Listen to that weird mofo, who woulda ever thunk it possible, for it to be a hit? For 1979 at least, I give "radio" a break.
Radio sucks ass now.....

[dissention]

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!?!

[Sugar]

Stand still, Laddie!

I love this album. The movie, not so much, although the animation sequences are cool. Didn't Geldof try to stop it's release?

[Chilly Willy]

[QUOTE=all the same]The Wall is a great album and the movie The Wall is great too! Did anyone see Roger Waters: The Wall where he had musicians from all genres sing songs from The Wall like Sinead O'Connor, Joni Mitchell, Van Morrisson and Cyndi Lauper? It was great!
QUOTE]

That's a great video. It was Cyndi that sang the song in question here. Snowy White and Rick DiFonzo did a fantastic job as part of the "house band."

Marianne Faithful and Joni Mitchell were good, and when you need an over-the-hill bimbo... who better than Jerri Hall.

[Sugar]

I very much liked Joni Mitchell's "Goodbye Blue Sky" and Paul Carrack's "Hey You." Could have done without Ute Lemper. She kinda seemed to be showing off, especially as the wife in "The Trial".

[WelshWitchPMD]

[QUOTE=Chilly Willy]

Originally Posted by all the same

The Wall is a great album and the movie The Wall is great too! Did anyone see Roger Waters: The Wall where he had musicians from all genres sing songs from The Wall like Sinead O'Connor, Joni Mitchell, Van Morrisson and Cyndi Lauper? It was great!
QUOTE]

That's a great video. It was Cyndi that sang the song in question here. Snowy White and Rick DiFonzo did a fantastic job as part of the "house band."

Marianne Faithful and Joni Mitchell were good, and when you need an over-the-hill bimbo... who better than Jerri Hall.

I was at the Hard Rock Cafe at Foxwoods Casino in CT last Sunday. I know I just come back from Vegas and I go to another casino. Not my idea but anyway they played a video by Korn. They also do a cover of "The Wall". It was kind of strange. Is this part of that video that you are talking about? I did not see anything about Roger Waters on the Korn video, however.

I have to say that the HRC plays some of the worst music.

[wondergirl9847]

Lindsey and Pink Floyd...two totally different animals (hehe, pun soooo intended.). Lindsey had a great childhood....Roger Waters, from what I hear, did not. Lindsey feeds off of his relationships with women, and I think Roger feeds off his relationship with his father/family. Am I totally off base here? Seteca would know.

Anywho, British artists are way different than American artists. I hate comparing people...HATE!!! It doesn't make sense to compare artists. I don't care for The Beatles, but the whole wide world looks at them as the best thing since sliced bread. Fine. I certainly don't look at them the same as I do Ashlee Simpson or Britney Spears. They do have some good songs, I just don't care for them.

I love PF thanks to Seteca. I would probably have never gotten into their music on my own, but he suggested I do so, and I did, and I liked it. I don't listen to them as much as I do Lindsey or FM, but I do like them a lot. It's not a matter of who's "better", but who I'm connected with. I like PF, but I'm not really connected to them. I am with Lindsey and FM. It's difficult to explain, but I think people here get it. We Ledgies are a smart bunch.

Dang. I'm waxing philosophical today, aren't I? LOL I've had a rough week, so my "spiritual" side is more awakened, I guess.

To wrap up this novel, I'd like to say, Tusk was very much a step to the left for FM. Lindsey's songs are very much out there and I think he did push Stevie and Christine to step a foot or so outside the box. Thank God he did, or we wouldn't have Beautiful Child, Sara, SOTM, Think About Me, Brown Eyes, NMMC, etc. Tusk and The Wall...different sounds, but a push into a different dimension for said bands.

[face of glass]

Originally Posted by amber

Yeah, I was thinking that. And is his solo work even very adventurous? The bit I've heard isn't, really. Tusk doesn't strike me as extremely adventurous. Even Tusk, the song, while fairly adventurous, still sort of just has regular drumming and notes on it.

Well, as Johnny said, Lindsey felt like he was in shackles within FM at some particular point, and wasn't able to use his creativity to its full extent, or whatever terms those pretentious grande artists like to use. I don't personally think Lindsey was referring to himself wanting to abandon traditional song structures, or notes and scales, while doing his solo work.

Lindsey himself has spoken of Tusk being his highest achievement within Fleetwood Mac. With that album he performed some of the tracks all by himself, and the amount of bandwork was non-existent with those. Mirage, on the other hand, he refers to as being his least satisfactory work within FM. On that album everyone was once again playing on all the tracks, even if the girls weren't harmonizing that much on Lindsey's songs anymore, Mick and John were still playing on them. I do believe that Lindsey wasn't too pleased with that. The groupwork that had seemed so liberating at the time of Rumours was becoming a problem for him; he didn't want to create songs for the group to play anymore, especially if they were to have the standard rhythm section treatment; he felt that it was more liberating if he did it all solo and created a rhythm section for himself that Mick, John and Chris couldn't provide. He did that in an intentionally clumsy way with Tusk, was taken a step back with Mirage, but continued the same road with Tango (again, it's not surprising that the only brief moment of a traditional rhythm section on a Lindsey-penned track on that album is on the end of the title track), eventually leading up to OOTC.

And now it seems that he's come full circle, since on SYW we have the traditional rhythm section in full bloom again. You could claim that Lindsey's been a major contributor in turning Fleetwood Mac into a non-democratic entity with all this and you'd have a good point there, but there's lots of other factors involved in this as well, things that might be discussed in a bigger post in the near future.

[face of glass]

Oh, and The Wall, both the album and the movie, makes me physically ill, but I guess that's the purpose of the whole thing.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by face of glass

. . . With that album he performed some of the tracks all by himself, and the amount of bandwork was non-existent with those.

John McVie denied this in his Q&A - he said he has played the bass lines on all FM songs.

[face of glass]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

John McVie denied this in his Q&A - he said he has played the bass lines on all FM songs.

Oh yes, and that was even in response to my obsessive question to him.

But then notable basslines haven't been a part of the Lindsey Buckingham sound since the days of Tusk. Some of them are actually so basic that I can imagine Lindsey having originally played them and then told John to follow his lead. And in my mind that isn't real bandwork.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

John McVie denied this in his Q&A - he said he has played the bass lines on all FM songs.

Which isn't exactly true...There's the one or two tracks that Bob Brunning played on; and, then Peter played bass on a couple of early tunes (even played a BASS SOLO on early live versions of "Green Manalishi"), Bob Welch played bass on at least "Revelation" on Penguin...maybe one other, too...(see first Bob Welch Q&A).


And, regarding Lindsey & Pink Floyd. There's a remarkable change in Lindsey's arrangement of "I'm So Afraid" after Pink Floyd released The Wall. Anyone ELSE hear the similarities between "Comfortably Numb" & the post-Wall live versions of "I'm So Afraid"??

[Keith]

the Wall is about the mental decline of a rock star.

The number one top selling album of the 70s. XM channel 7 counted down the top 70 albums of the 70s. Rumours finished 3rd, behind the Wall, and Led Zeppelin IV.