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Old 05-01-2005, 02:31 PM
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I sent GeminiCusp82 a private message yesterday and figured, hell, I might as well post it. Illume sounds an awful lot like Richard Ashcroft's New York, but there is also a second song called C'Mon People (We're Makin' It Now) that sounds quite a bit like Say You Will. It's not nearly as obvious but there are definite elements. Lindsey must have been listening to a bit of the old Ashcroft when he started production on the Say You Will album. I really doubt either of these songs are consciously ripped off though. We take influence and inspiration from things all the time. I know I do. And sometimes it's difficult to tell if the idea is coming from you or you've heard or seen (in my case) it before.
I just posted C'mon People and Say You Will on my "the hot spot" page so if anyone wants to hear it to compare, it's there.

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Old 05-01-2005, 02:32 PM
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I am loving these Richard Ashcoft songs. Love his voice. I need to go out and buy some CDs.
They are very catchy songs, especially C'mon People (We're Making It Now)...very very good! Thank you Daniel for telling me about this!!!!
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They are very catchy songs, especially C'mon People (We're Making It Now)...very very good! Thank you Daniel for telling me about this!!!!
I think Richard Ashcroft's Alone With Everybody album is fantastic! Song for the Lovers is great too! Pick it up, you won't be disappointed! I saw him live in Vancouver and he's sitting in my top five concerts. He used to be with The Verve too if you REALLY dig his voice. I love him. He has a really f-ed up face too in a very good way. I think he's beautiful!
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Just listened to Richard Ashcroft C'mon People and had forgotten how similar the guitar is to Say You Will. Crazy! Now, I'm listening to Werewolves of London. Crazy! Zevon and Nicks were friends, right. So, it must have all been cool with each other. I prefer Angel. The "Ahooooooo" is really irritating in Werewolves.
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OK, to my ears "Bring on the Night" and "New York" have the most striking similarities to Stevie's songs. The "Angel" and "Say You Will" (verse) chord progressions are some of the most common in pop, so those don't really seem so amazing to me. I'll grant the guitar line in SYW is a lot like the one in "C'mon" -- but SYW's chorus is totally different (and better).

But "New York" -- yeah, the rhythm and progression are exactly the same as Stevie's. Wow. I'll bet she heard that song at some point before writing "Illume." As for "Bring On," was that written before "Edge" or after? The verse has a suspiciously similar sound.

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OK, to my ears "Bring on the Night" and "New York" have the most striking similarities to Stevie's songs. The "Angel" and "Say You Will" (verse) chord progressions are some of the most common in pop, so those don't really seem so amazing to me. I'll grant the guitar line in SYW is a lot like the one in "C'mon" -- but SYW's chorus is totally different (and better).

But "New York" -- yeah, the rhythm and progression are exactly the same as Stevie's. Wow. I'll bet she heard that song at some point before writing "Illume." As for "Bring On," was that written before "Edge" or after? The verse has a suspiciously similar sound.

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I agreed about "Bring on" so I looked up the copyright data: 1979, a year and a few months before "Edge"
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OK, to my ears "Bring on the Night" and "New York" have the most striking similarities to Stevie's songs.
I still don't hear the melodic or harmonic similarity between the Police song & "Edge of 17." The only similarity -- albeit a serious one -- is the drum pattern with the kick on the off-beat.

The "Bring on the Night" verse chord progression is:
Am/C Em/C D7 Am/D Em G/E Am/F Em
Am/C Em/C D7 Am/D Em G/E Am/E Em

& the chorus is:
G A Am Em D
G A Am Em D

"Edge of 17" is:
Em C D Em D/E Em
C D Em D/E Em
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That song Cmon People sounds similar to the beginning melody of (Reach Out) "I'll Be There" by the Four Tops.

Anyone else think so?

Everyone seems to rip everyone else off. LOL
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That song Cmon People sounds similar to the beginning melody of (Reach Out) "I'll Be There" by the Four Tops.

Anyone else think so?

Everyone seems to rip everyone else off. LOL
I do! I said that to my friends the other day when I heard it!!!
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