Prosecutor to probe Cuyahoga County recount

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by macfanken

You said it perfectly. We're not living in a Democracy anymore, some shady **** happened on election day and some very shady **** happened during the "recount". In four short years this country has turned into a fascist theocracy. Until recently, I was never able to comprehend how the Nazis were able to gain power in Germany, it was just amazing to me that it could happen. Now, with the neo-cons in congress, in the White House and soon to be in the Supreme Court, I see exactly how it can happen.

ITA - and I know people get pissed at me for saying this, but the D's are ineffective in stopping them and in fact often join them for whatever insignificant reason they can come up with - see Defense of Marriage act signed by William Jefferson Clinton. What I would not have given for Kerry to have grown a set and faced off to W with a finger in the face and said "look you ****ing [CAT] - at least I VOLUNTEERED to go to Nam - while you were working on some fu**tard campaign in the safety of whitebread AL, where no one - DO YOU HEAR NO FU**ING ONE - remembers you were. So, you and that a$$hole Rove can take that fact and shove it straight up your uptight and corrupt assess and if you lie about me again, I am going to beat the **** out of you."



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[amber]

Originally Posted by macfanken

You said it perfectly. We're not living in a Democracy anymore, some shady **** happened on election day and some very shady **** happened during the "recount". In four short years this country has turned into a fascist theocracy. Until recently, I was never able to comprehend how the Nazis were able to gain power in Germany, it was just amazing to me that it could happen. Now, with the neo-cons in congress, in the White House and soon to be in the Supreme Court, I see exactly how it can happen.

Love what you said here.
Ueducated Masses + Religious Sloganism + Bad Economy + Heinous Corruption + Gov't/Corporation Controlled Media Propoganda = Fascism. A quick history lesson using mathematics, for y'all.

[macfanken]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

ITA - and I know people get pissed at me for saying this, but the D's are ineffective in stopping them and in fact often join them for whatever insignificant reason they can come up with - see Defense of Marriage act signed by William Jefferson Clinton. What I would not have given for Kerry to have grown a set and faced off to W with a finger in the face and said "look you ****ing [CAT] - at least I VOLUNTEERED to go to Nam - while you were working on some fu**tard campaign in the safety of whitebread AL, where no one - DO YOU HEAR NO FU**ING ONE - remembers you were. So, you and that a$$hole Rove can take that fact and shove it straight up your uptight and corrupt assess and if you lie about me again, I am going to beat the **** out of you."



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I was VERY disapointed in Kerry, I kind of liked the guy but his campaign was PATHETIC! Beating Bush should have been a piece of cake.

[macfanken]

Originally Posted by amber

Love what you said here.
Ueducated Masses + Religious Sloganism + Bad Economy + Heinous Corruption + Gov't/Corporation Controlled Media Propoganda = Fascism. A quick history lesson using mathematics, for y'all.

Ha! I forgot about the media, they're definitely an accomplice in all of this. If they would do their job, the neo-cons would have a much tougher time taking over the world!

[amber]

Originally Posted by macfanken

Ha! I forgot about the media, they're definitely an accomplice in all of this. If they would do their job, the neo-cons would have a much tougher time taking over the world!

they can't do their job, neocons/corporations own them.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by macfanken

Ha! I forgot about the media, they're definitely an accomplice in all of this. If they would do their job, the neo-cons would have a much tougher time taking over the world!

I know this is unpopular, but I think the media reported everything - they even showed body bags I get that they complained that they were told to tone it down, but through them everyone knows Iraq was based on a lie and W and crewe facilitated that lie by making the CIA and other sources give them what they wanted to hear. Everyone knows W and Co. were cuaght with their pants down prior to 9/11 in that they basically ignored Al-Q as a threat and focused in SH, which they later ousted not learning their lesson. Everyone knows our soldiers (though certainly not all) we instructed to torture and did so with glee as evidenced by the photos. Everyone knows W's SSA reforms are anything but that. Everyone knows we have a HUGE mess on our hands in Iraq. The media (both print and live) reported all of this and many outlets screamed it - the studies and surveys support that people knew about all of these things via the media. Thus, I do not buy into the media is responsible for the current state of affairs. I think the problem is with the American public who would rather hate all Arabs and fags than look at the facts or blame the real people (W and crewe) for the current state of affairs. Sad - but very true.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by macfanken

I was VERY disapointed in Kerry, I kind of liked the guy but his campaign was PATHETIC! Beating Bush should have been a piece of cake.

It was Kerry's to lose. I give Rove his due - though I cannot stand him and think he is a liar, a cheat, and a fraud - his immoral manipulation of the media and public was politics at its best. Again, he took the light off of all of W's horrid mistakes and put it squarely on two things: 1. Fags - God will hate you if you vote for the D's because they are Fag lovers and fags are soely responsible for the pathetic state of America and its Godless existence and 2. God has ordained W to fight Arabs, which America seemingly mostly lumps into one big threat, which I submit is why something like 70% of America still thinks SH attacked us on 9/11 They make me sick.

On edit - I think Kerry's playing to the middle almost won him the election. Voter fraud issues aside, Kerry damn near won Ohio and Florida, either of which I believe could have gotten him in the WH. So, while I disagree with his methods, they almost worked But given W's incompetency, Kerry should have won by a large margin.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I know this is unpopular, but I think the media reported everything - they even showed body bags I get that they complained that they were told to tone it down, but through them everyone knows Iraq was based on a lie and W and crewe facilitated that lie by making the CIA and other sources give them what they wanted to hear. Everyone knows W and Co. were cuaght with their pants down prior to 9/11 in that they basically ignored Al-Q as a threat and focused in SH, which they later ousted not learning their lesson. Everyone knows our soldiers (though certainly not all) we instructed to torture and did so with glee as evidenced by the photos. Everyone knows W's SSA reforms are anything but that. Everyone knows we have a HUGE mess on our hands in Iraq. The media (both print and live) reported all of this and many outlets screamed it - the studies and surveys support that people knew about all of these things via the media. Thus, I do not buy into the media is responsible for the current state of affairs. I think the problem is with the American public who would rather hate all Arabs and fags than look at the facts or blame the real people (W and crewe) for the current state of affairs. Sad - but very true.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I stand by my post #27 in that thread. Legally it is correct.

But, I am not about to get into this again

All you are doing is regurgitating the line that Jim Baker used to get the media to protray Gore as sore loser man. In fact, in that other thread, you almost repeated it verbatim.
Gore did what he did becuase that is what the law allowed for.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by amber

That reminds me, GDW, what do you think of the flat 15% tax?

It's a regressive tax. From what I've read and that is not that much, I am not impressed with it and feel that it would benenfit the wealthy and hit working families too hard.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

It's a regressive tax. From what I've read and that is not that much, I am not impressed with it and feel that it would benenfit the wealthy and hit working families too hard.

Don't forget that Bush was trying to hock something very similar last summer. Was spewing excrement about doing away with income taxes and having a flat-rate federal sales tax across the country. Factor in state and local taxes and you're going to be paying 25-30% in taxes for toothpaste and tampons. What a dolt. That's regressive taxation if I've ever seen it.

And your sig? LOVE IT!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by macfanken

I was VERY disapointed in Kerry, I kind of liked the guy but his campaign was PATHETIC! Beating Bush should have been a piece of cake.

Yes. It should have been. Kerry did not one interview on Air America. It is almost like he didn't wnat to be president.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dissention

Don't forget that Bush was trying to hock something very similar last summer. Was spewing excrement about doing away with income taxes and having a flat-rate federal sales tax across the country. Factor in state and local taxes and you're going to be paying 25-30% in taxes for toothpaste and tampons. What a dolt. That's regressive taxation if I've ever seen it.

And your sig? LOVE IT!

Thank you.
So much has happened in the last year I'd forgotten Bush's little tax fantasy.
It seems that every other day, as I read the news, I just think to myself "WTF is happening to this country?" and "When will it end?"

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

All you are doing is regurgitating the line that Jim Baker used to get the media to protray Gore as sore loser man. In fact, in that other thread, you almost repeated it verbatim.
Gore did what he did becuase that is what the law allowed for.

No, the law allowed him to request the recounts individually in each county. Yet, he chose only the four where he thought he had a better chance - wonder why

Hey wait a minute - didn't I just say I was not getting into this again

[strandinthewind]

The problem as I see it with the left, is they truly think it is okay to tax people over 50% if they make over say $200,000 a year (and some put the income at less than that). That is insane. No one deserves that - period. Thus, though it is not perfect, a flat tax is the fairest option. I would even go for a flat tax on anyone making $30,000 or more a year and people making under that pay no tax even though that would become a loophole to avoid tax. But, taxing someone at over 50% just on the Fed. level is assinine and punitive.

I get that some people here may not be for a tax that high, but I suggest some are and that is just wrong. But, hey let's take all the incentive out of the drive to do better and make more money