Martha Freed! - Page 4

strandinthewind · #46 03-04-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

Definitely. I was a witch hunt all the way.

AARRGGHH!!!!! PET PEEVE

If anyone thinks it is okay to lie to the police - then I just do not know why we bother having laws at all

Note - this is not directed at anyone in particular - just general venting

Brwn_eyes0511 · #47 03-04-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

You made the statement that someone who commits insider trading is breaking the law, so they are the enemy and should be put in prison. I'm simply asking if the same standard applies to the chimp.

Again, avoiding this altogether...I knew that somehow this would become end up being about Bush, just like most threads on this board.

Sorry...I'm avoiding the political topics on this board now. You guys can find another republican to treat like dirt...not me anymore, I'm done!

heyjupiter678 · #48 03-04-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I'm simply asking if the same standard applies to the chimp.

Duh, diss. Of course not! He can do no wrong!

strandinthewind · #49 03-04-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

What Martha did harmed no one. No one.

Which thing - lying to the police or using inside information to get out of losing money on an investment while the uninformed little people had no such luxury

I mean W did the essentially the same thing with that oil company stock and no one here defends him

strandinthewind · #50 03-04-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Also, as a Republican, shouldn't you be concerned with overcrowding and wasting tax dollars on incarcerating people like that? Putting Martha Stewart through such a spectacle of a trial and then sending her off to prison certainly isn't what I would call fiscal responsibility.

Again, screw it, let us just let all people lie to the piloce with no ramifications that mean anything. Maybe we should have just fined her $100 and called her a nasty name. Again, she lied to the police in an investigation and you people are willing to let her off the hook. i will never get it - ever.

AND - she has no one to thank but herself - she lied

dissention · #51 03-04-2005, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Again, screw it, let us just let all people lie to the piloce with no ramifications that mean anything. Maybe we should have just fined her $100 and called her a nasty name. Again, she lied to the police in an investigation and you people are willing to let her off the hook. i will never get it - ever.

AND - she has no one to thank but herself - she lied

I never said let her off the hook. Quote me. I simply recommended a different form of punishment that fit the crime.

strandinthewind · #52 03-04-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

That's ludicrous. I swear, there are robbers and rapists who serve less time...but, If you want to think that, go ahead. I'll just mark you off in the "uninformed" column and move on.

I suggest no convicted rapist has ever served six months in a minimum security prison

If you can find such a case - I would be interested to see it because every rape statute I can think of allows no such light penalty. But, you may know of one that does

AND - MS did steal, she stole from the people who did not have the luxury of her insider information - yet she gets a free pass.

Brwn_eyes0511 · #53 03-04-2005, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I suggest no convicted rapist has ever served six months in a minimum security prison

If you can find such a case - I would be interested to see it because every rape statute I can think of allows no such light penalty. But, you may know of one that does

AND - MS did steal, she stole from the people who did not have the luxury of her insider information - yet she gets a free pass.

Very great points. I agree.

strandinthewind · #54 03-04-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

The day we start locking people up for being stupid is the day half of this country becomes cellblock neighbors.

Martha Stewart deserved house arrest and a fine, nothing more.

Wasn't she offered a fine and to plead guilty and she refused it

Again, she is to blame for this. She chose to lie and thought there would be no consequences - she was wrong.

I do agree with you that there are larger fish than Martha to fry. However, breaking the law is breaking the law no matter who you are

Thus, I have no pity for her.

GateandGarden · #55 03-04-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I am trying to stay away from most of the political topics on this forum, they ususally lead no where!

They do not! We engage in some very enthralling discussions about politics on here. They're the most interesting I encounter. I've learned a lot from reading posts by Josh, Jason, Christy, Tiff and several others. They have made me look past myself and see other viewpoints. There are lots of differing opinions here--you just don't see that for some reason.

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You guys can find another republican to treat like dirt...not me anymore, I'm done!

Considering how dramatically different the other Republicans on this board act towards everyone, I think everyone would have to come down to good ole Louisiana to find another Republican similar to you.

amber · #56 03-04-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I suggest no convicted rapist has ever served six months in a minimum security prison

If you can find such a case - I would be interested to see it because every rape statute I can think of allows no such light penalty. But, you may know of one that does

AND - MS did steal, she stole from the people who did not have the luxury of her insider information - yet she gets a free pass.

Ah! So glad you're here. I still don't think the punishment fits the crime, though, which was my point.

strandinthewind · #57 03-04-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

No, she went to prison and is now being put under house arrest.

Either way you slice the bread, it's still stale. And you still haven't said a thing about Bush's insider trading. Should he have gone to prison?

Yes he should have if they could prove it, which it appears they could have.

Interestingly, Martha sis not go to jail for insider trading, she went for obstruction of justice, and she was guilty of that.