Guilty Pleasures

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I referred to when LB openly wept when explaining to La Nicks how much it meant to him to be able to work with them and her again. I think weeping qualifies as the most emotional scene, esp. considering LB had to walk away because of it.

I would hardly call that weeping. What rank spin!

[Miss Vicky]

Originally Posted by Lux

Destiny Rules ! My god, the vocals on that are embarassing. Baaahhh.

I always thought she sounded more nasal than bleating on that one... more like her idols Petty and Dylan (only they sound good when they do it)... but I see what you're saying.

And to this a really potentially insulting joke comes to mind, but out of respect for the thin-skinned Stevie-ites among us, I'll refrain.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

As one of the people in question (I likened Stevie's voice to Elmer Fudd), I can say I used that description because it was the best thing I could think of to match what her voice sounds like to me. Although some people may have found this insulting (why, i don't know... after all it was directed at Stevie, and as far as I know, she isn't a Ledgie) that really wasn't the intention. I've seen many rather insulting things being stated on these boards about my favorite, Lindsey Buckingham - but rather than getting all upset about it, I either ignore the post or calmly express my disagreement. It seems the logical thing to do.

Again, I think people can say whatever they want about anything they want. I am not the censure police I just think that people know when they say things like Stevie sounds like Elmer Fudd that other people are going to get upset. Whether they should get upset is not the point. The point is if you know that comments like that are going to upset people, why make them when you could just as easily express the point is milder tones. it is called taking the higher road because two wrongs (the other wrong being the same heightened lang. used against LB) do not make a right

Then again, if all "camps" would get over the fact that everything we say essentially meaningless, fewer arguments would exist Translated - do no take the bait

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

I particularly love how she talked of using cough drops to help her voice. That **** doesn't do anything. And those moisture machines she used? They probably worked for the first song, but that's it. Any singer worth their salt knows that if you want to loosen up your voice, you down a couple tablespoons of olive oil.

Cough Drops contianing zinc can allow you to sing when you cannot. I know - I have used them

[Miss Vicky]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, talk to him about it as he seems to love her and her performances - in fact, he loves them so much he invited her to be on his solo soundstage performace which I attended - Interestingly, he did not invite John and Mick who were also in Chicago at the time So, apparently, the pacakge deal is not in total demise - much to your apparent chagrin

Tone - jovial - not snarky

I know, I was none too thrilled when I found out about his "special guest." Ugh.

And as much as I'd love to talk to Lindsey, if I ever got the chance I suspect that the subject of Stevie would be the last thing that would come to my mind to discuss.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Cough Drops contianing zinc can allow you to sing when you cannot. I know - I have used them

Gargle salt water. That is the recommended thing to do.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

I would hardly call that weeping. What rank spin!

Then you need to learn the def. of weep

Main Entry: weep
Pronunciation: 'wEp
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): wept /'wept/; weep·ing
Etymology: Middle English wepen, from Old English wEpan; akin to Old High German wuoffan to weep, Old Church Slavonic vabiti to call to
transitive senses
1 : to express deep sorrow for usually by shedding tears : BEWAIL
2 : to pour forth (tears) from the eyes
3 : to exude (a fluid) slowly : OOZE
intransitive senses
1 : to express passion (as grief) by shedding tears
2 a : to give off or leak fluid slowly : OOZE b of a fluid : to flow sluggishly or in drops
3 : to droop over : BEND

http://www.merriamwebster.com/cgi-bi...weep&x=14&y=12

He started crying and wipe his eyes, when he could not stop the tears, he left the camera's read. Thus, he wept. But, if you want to use cry instead of weep - I am all for that too as the point was he was upset.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

I know, I was none too thrilled when I found out about his "special guest." Ugh.

And as much as I'd love to talk to Lindsey, if I ever got the chance I suspect that the subject of Stevie would be the last thing that would come to my mind to discuss.

I hope you'd be up for discussing "cycles", etc. Oh, and I hope you'd be up for sifting through his words to find the point.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Gargle salt water. That is the recommended thing to do.

That works very well too - but zinc works the best as far as I am concerned. I have gone from being unable to speak outside of a hoarse whisper to full voice with zinc.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Then you need to learn the def. of weep

Main Entry: weep
Pronunciation: 'wEp
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): wept /'wept/; weep·ing
Etymology: Middle English wepen, from Old English wEpan; akin to Old High German wuoffan to weep, Old Church Slavonic vabiti to call to
transitive senses
1 : to express deep sorrow for usually by shedding tears : BEWAIL
2 : to pour forth (tears) from the eyes
3 : to exude (a fluid) slowly : OOZE
intransitive senses
1 : to express passion (as grief) by shedding tears
2 a : to give off or leak fluid slowly : OOZE b of a fluid : to flow sluggishly or in drops
3 : to droop over : BEND

http://www.merriamwebster.com/cgi-bi...weep&x=14&y=12

He started crying and wipe his eyes, when he could not stop the tears, he left the camera's read. Thus, he wept. But, if you want to use cry instead of weep - I am all for that too as the point was he was upset.

You need to watch the DVD again. He welled-up, sure, but weep he did not.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Cough Drops contianing zinc can allow you to sing when you cannot. I know - I have used them

She doesn't seem to have the knowledge to have sought out those particular drops, I'm sure she went straight for the Vicks.

[Miss Vicky]

Originally Posted by amber

I hope you'd be up for discussing "cycles", etc. Oh, and I hope you'd be up for sifting through his words to find the point.

I have no trouble finding the point in his statements. The main point of course being "I'm going to keep giving interviewers the same rehearsed answers everytime and say the same speeches at concerts everytime because it's really none of their business how I really feel about it."

Although he did seem rather candid on Charlie Rose when asked what the worst times in his life have been. His answer: "Fleetwood Mac." The meaning in that seems crystal clear if you ask me.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Gargle salt water. That is the recommended thing to do.

I've tried that and all it does, for me at least, is soothe my sore throat. Doesn't help me to sing much. I like to drink a little orange juice and then down a little olive oil. Works amazingly.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

. . . And to this a really potentially insulting joke comes to mind, but out of respect for the thin-skinned Stevie-ites among us, I'll refrain.

So much for being respectful not to mention hypocritcal because in general most LB campers are just as thin skinned I mean I know of no Chiffonhead who does not readily accept that La Nicks' voice is lower and her range smaller. I know of no Chiffonhead who does not readily accept that La Nicks shows fewer energetic outbursts onstage than she used to - I submit a significant part of that was the menopause and the injured hip - but then again I am a big ole softy I guess It is the constant hammering that gets old. But, if it makes people feel better to disparage her at every chance (I think mostly to encite - but again that is just my opinion) - so be it.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

I have no trouble finding the point in his statements. The main point of course being "I'm going to keep giving interviewers the same rehearsed answers everytime and say the same speeches at concerts everytime because it's really none of their business how I really feel about it."

Although he did seem rather candid on Charlie Rose when asked what the worst times in his life have been. His answer: "Fleetwood Mac." The meaning in that seems crystal clear if you ask me.

yeah, probably the worst times in all their lives occurred during FM - they were in the band for a good chunk of their adult lives. I love Lindsey, but I kept cringing during Destiny Rules at the way he was talking. Course, his speaking voice is a little high for my tastes. But I think he often sounds pretentious, condescending, and a bit whiny, even when he is making a good point.