Sanctuary masters

blinker12 · #1 01-06-2005, 12:07 AM

OK, this is kind of a long, involved question.

About two years ago, there was a great Stevie download site called moniquerenee.com. The site is now defunct. But while it was up, I downloaded a series of "Sanctuary" takes from the master reels. The takes were numbered up as far as 12 or 14, as I recall.

There was one take in particular that I loved. I think it was #10, or maybe #6.

Anyway, the laptop computer that they were on was stolen shortly after I downloaded the songs, and I've never been able to find the version I like so much since. I've reviewed everything that's reposted on ThrownDown.net, and it's not there.

Can anyone help me track down these takes? If it helps, they came from a series that also included conversations between Stevie and Tom Petty about the writing of the song, including one part where Tom says the chorus shouldn't start on the same chord as the verse.

Dar · #2 01-06-2005, 09:11 AM

I have them but I only have them listed as 1 thru 8. It's a riot listening to Stevie and Tom go back and forth about her only playing in the keys of F and G. He also goes on about how it needs a bridge and she tells him to biuld a bridge. At the end of nunber 8 she ask for a glass of champagne. Great stuff.

Darlene

strandinthewind · #3 01-06-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dar

I have them but I only have them listed as 1 thru 8. It's a riot listening to Stevie and Tom go back and forth about her only playing in the keys of F and G. He also goes on about how it needs a bridge and she tells him to biuld a bridge. At the end of nunber 8 she ask for a glass of champagne. Great stuff.

Darlene

F is a very cool key to sing in - it is commonly referred to as the "show tune key"

G, on the other hand and IMO - is MUCH harder.

La Nicks though - has a strange voice that really could never sing in an easier key like C.

Here is some info on musical keys:

http://www.happychild.org.uk/acc/tpr/mne/1299musi.htm

http://www.library.yale.edu/~mkoth/keychar.htm

Dar · #4 01-06-2005, 12:47 PM

Thanks for the fasinating information. I played in the band in high school so I knew all that stuff at one time long long ago

Darlene

sparky · #5 01-06-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

F is a very cool key to sing in - it is commonly referred to as the "show tune key"

G, on the other hand and IMO - is MUCH harder.

La Nicks though - has a strange voice that really could never sing in an easier key like C.

Can Homegirl even try to sing in more than 2 keys anymore ? I mean, we are talking about about an octave and a half range on a good day.

dissention · #6 01-06-2005, 01:14 PM

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Can Homegirl even try to sing in more than 2 keys anymore ? I mean, we are talking about about an octave and a half range on a good day.

You just couldn't help yourself.

sparky · #7 01-06-2005, 01:21 PM

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You just couldn't help yourself.

Well, what's your issue ? Like you weren't gonna go there ?

If I recall correctly, I think Sable On Blonde is in some strange key like E flat or something. But other than that, I mean for crying out loud, it is all Am, F, G, repeat. Most things anyway. You get lucky to get a suspended second or a 7th in a bridge. If there IS a bridge, that is.
Thinking.....Bella Donna might be B flat, Leather and Lace too....

dissention · #8 01-06-2005, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

Well, what's your issue ? Like you weren't gonna go there ?

If I recall correctly, I think Sable On Blonde is in some strange key like E flat or something. But other than that, I mean for crying out loud, it is all Am, F, G, repeat. Most things anyway. You get lucky to get a suspended second or a 7th in a bridge. If there IS a bridge, that is.
Thinking.....Bella Donna might be B flat, Leather and Lace too....

Of course I was. My issue is with the fact that I couldn't have been the first one to bring it up, wise ass.

sparky · #9 01-06-2005, 01:28 PM

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Of course I was. My issue is with the fact that I couldn't have been the first one to bring it up, wise ass.

You have beaten me to many other punches, pal.

strandinthewind · #10 01-06-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

Can Homegirl even try to sing in more than 2 keys anymore ? I mean, we are talking about about an octave and a half range on a good day.

Well, I think she cam, but does not. I mean she was in close to three on the last tour. Say You Will was prob. the lowest and SG harmony was prob. the highest.

She was also WAY up there in the Chris Issak thingee.

But, I agree that she should stay as high as she can because, for me, the lower voice is not that great when compared to the high one.

sparky · #11 01-06-2005, 01:48 PM

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I mean she was in close to three on the last tour. Say You Will was prob. the lowest and SG harmony was prob. the highest.

I didn't hear THAT. She sure doesn't single an octave below middle C - and I don't know that those harmonies in SG are an octave above it.

And that's only a full two.

strandinthewind · #12 01-06-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

I didn't hear THAT. She sure doesn't single an octave below middle C - and I don't know that those harmonies in SG are an octave above it.

And that's only a full two.

It sounds to me like when she sings "a little world in a world" in LIB - she is above middle C

She was also above it on the Chris Issak special.

I also thought that "Somethin in you brought out somethin in me" was below middle C - then in the chorus her voice seemingly is at middle C - her harmony above it.

But, in the end, I still think she can hit two and possibly three, which is not really that many IMO.

Johnny Stew · #13 01-07-2005, 03:14 PM

I'm tellin' ya, I'm so sick of her 2-note range, I'm never listenin' to the hag again!!!

gldstwmn · #14 01-07-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blinker12

Can anyone help me track down these takes? If it helps, they came from a series that also included conversations between Stevie and Tom Petty about the writing of the song, including one part where Tom says the chorus shouldn't start on the same chord as the verse.

I would think you could trade for them. I don't know if we could post this on easytree?

sparky · #15 01-07-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm tellin' ya, I'm so sick of her 2-note range, I'm never listenin' to the hag again!!!

THAT WAS EXACTLY THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.