Anti-evolution teachings gain foothold in U.S. schools - Page 2

amber · #16 12-19-2004, 07:13 PM

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Yeah, but the Supreme Court has ruled that it's constitutional to use public tax dollars to send kids to private religious schools, so that fundamental tenet has been tossed out the window, unfortunately.

I think I should erect my Jesusland map once again.

yeah, i didn't say we were good at it, i said it's nevertheless important that it exists and is supposed to be an integral part of our society...

GateandGarden · #17 12-19-2004, 07:14 PM

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I think I should erect my Jesusland map once again.

Yeah! I love that thing!

Hillary

amber · #18 12-19-2004, 07:15 PM

Did you see robert smigels cartoon on snl, where on santa's map the red states were called "dumbf***istan"?

wondergirl9847 · #19 12-19-2004, 07:20 PM

Why can't we teach religion in school? Children should learn all about various religions that people believe in all around the world.

GypsySorcerer · #20 12-19-2004, 07:21 PM

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Why can't we teach religion in school? Children should learn all about various religions that people believe in all around the world.

I see no problem with religion being taught in a history class, but when actual beliefs are being taught as truths, that's where we get into problems.

dissention · #21 12-19-2004, 07:22 PM

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Why can't we teach religion in school?

Because it has no place there.

dissention · #22 12-19-2004, 07:24 PM

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but when actual beliefs are being taught as truths, that's were we get into problems.

Which is why religion has no place in the public school system. It's simply impossible to teach religion in anything but a biased manner.

amber · #23 12-19-2004, 07:26 PM

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Which is why religion has no place in the public school system. It's simply impossible to teach religion in anything but a biased manner.

Yeah, besides, that's saved for college classes called "comparative religions" and stuff like that. Which does not compare at all to "teaching alternatives to evolution" in public schools.

GypsySorcerer · #24 12-19-2004, 07:26 PM

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Which is why religion has no place in the public school system. It's simply impossible to teach religion in anything but a biased manner.

I don't think you should teach religion, but I think it should be placed into its historical contexts....like the Crusades in a world history class.

GateandGarden · #25 12-19-2004, 07:27 PM

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I don't think you should teach religion, but I think it should be placed into its historical contexts....like the Crusades in a world history class.

I agree.

dissention · #26 12-19-2004, 07:30 PM

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I don't think you should teach religion, but I think it should be placed into its historical contexts....like the Crusades in a world history class.

Exactly.

Hawkeye · #27 12-19-2004, 08:43 PM

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Hawkeye also said she was glad we invaded Iraq because it would cost her less on gas.

what's with this her stuff. It's HE. I think I've indicated that before, why can't you rremember that, but you remember that gas comment from over a year ago.

Hawkeye · #28 12-19-2004, 08:48 PM

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It's important because it's not okay to teach religion in public schools. It's also important because the students need a well-rounded biology education, and I think you'd be more gung-ho about that if you were a fan of biology. I don't like math classes at all, but I'm not going to say "It's not important for students to learn algebra" just because I didn't like it at all. I guess it's good that you're not a member of the school board. And it good to know that separation of church and state is of such concern to you.

But I'm going to continually remind you that you said at one point that people can't be gay and moral at the same time, which is utterly ridiculous. How do you expect me to trust your statements to make sense after that?

Hillary

I didn't say the religious version should be taught either. NEITHER should be taught. teaching Evolution is equally as biased as teaching religion. It's cramming evolution down kids throats, which is just a theory as is the creation thing.

GateandGarden · #29 12-19-2004, 09:30 PM

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I didn't say the religious version should be taught either. NEITHER should be taught. teaching Evolution is equally as biased as teaching religion. It's cramming evolution down kids throats, which is just a theory as is the creation thing.

I think you know that's completely false. And I'll let dissention take that one if he's interested.

ontheEdgeof17 · #30 12-19-2004, 09:34 PM

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Why can't we teach religion in school? Children should learn all about various religions that people believe in all around the world.

It would be very biased. I had a Religions of the World class, and professor was clearly unhappy with teaching other beliefs other than Christianity.