New book on FM coming out - Page 4

DeeGeMe · #46 09-30-2004, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin

That's interesting.

The publisher actually wrote us and asked if we'd be interested in a review copy/promoting it-- I said perhaps, and asked if they'd spoken to any members for the book or if the info was obtained primarily from previous interviews etc. I see above that at least they did talk to some studio people.

Haven't heard back from her yet....??

-Lis

The Penguin is mentioned in the Bibliography. Here, I'll tell you what it says: "The oneline Fleetwood Mac resource The Penguin (www.fleetwoodmac.net) should really be in a list of its own, since it's such an unending fount of information. Marty and Lisa Adelson's website hosts original Q&A sessions, biographical information, discographies, guitar tabaltures, as well as reams of archival material--and more."

And according to the index, The Penguin is mentioned on pages 37-8, 96, 118, 123, 127, 130, 132, 142, 160, 182, 191, 201, and 212!

Here are the people that are listed in the bibliography that she (the author) personally inteviewed. I recognized the names of some of them, some of them I didn't: Nina Bombardier, Bob Brunning, Bob Edwards, Ben Fong-Torres, Michael Freeman, John Grissim, Gretchen Heffler, Margi Kent, Al Kooper, Cris Morris, Jeff Murphy, Mark Myers, Keith Olsen, and Mickey Shapiro.

***ThePenguin*** · #47 09-30-2004, 07:39 AM

>>>The Penguin is mentioned in the Bibliography. Here, I'll tell you what it says: "The oneline Fleetwood Mac resource The Penguin (www.fleetwoodmac.net) should really be in a list of its own, since it's such an unending fount of information. Marty and Lisa Adelson's website hosts original Q&A sessions, biographical information, discographies, guitar tabaltures, as well as reams of archival material--and more."
And according to the index, The Penguin is mentioned on pages 37-8, 96, 118, 123, 127, 130, 132, 142, 160, 182, 191, 201, and 212! >>

Really!! I may have to get the book now.

Thanks for the info!!

-Lis

DeeGeMe · #48 09-30-2004, 10:30 AM

[QUOTE=ThePenguinReally!! I may have to get the book now.

Thanks for the info!!-Lis[/QUOTE]

Not a problem. It's not a bad book--it's not Pulitzer Prize material by any means but I've certainly read a lot worse books about FM! At least they gave the Penguin credit as a resource unlike some other books we could mention!

Johnny Stew · #49 09-30-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

yeah - you should. I personally have the feeling that Stevie's book would also be an excercise in half truths and washovers. No offense to Stevie, of course. But I noticed when i was reading old movie actress biographies in highschool, that the one the star wrote themselves was always more dull, and really didn't have any dirt in it that would make the star look bad, or show them at a weak human moment or whatever...

Amber

Stevie's always maintained that the last thing her autobiography would ever be, is some kind of "scathing tell-all."
She has said that she'd discuss all the highs and lows, but she's not interested in being graphic or hurtful.

My assumption is that her book would be much like her songs... honest, but most definitely romanticized.
Personally, I'd be disappointed by anything else. Something "full of dirt" seems beneath Stevie to me.

HomerMcvie · #50 09-30-2004, 04:33 PM

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Something "full of dirt" seems beneath Stevie to me.

Then how do you explain Joe Walsh?

I thought that was sooo funny, I had to post it.

Johnny Stew · #51 09-30-2004, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I must say Kitty K. is a bit of a hack, but her books are good if they are taken with a little grain of salt

I wouldn't call her a "hack," but she's certainly a very well-paid gossip monger.

I'm always conflicted about her books... she usually tackles subjects who could use taken down a peg (the Reagans, the Bushs, etc.), but I generally cringe at her style.
Sometimes it seems like a glorified National Enquirer article. Comments and statements from former (and typically disgruntled) associates and grade-school acquaintances, interspersed with known facts to make the tome seem more reputable.

amber · #52 09-30-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Stevie's always maintained that the last thing her autobiography would ever be, is some kind of "scathing tell-all."
She has said that she'd discuss all the highs and lows, but she's not interested in being graphic or hurtful.

My assumption is that her book would be much like her songs... honest, but most definitely romanticized.
Personally, I'd be disappointed by anything else. Something "full of dirt" seems beneath Stevie to me.

Yeah, but then you won't know what "really happened". I mean, it's fine to not want that, but sometimes, usually, the truth can be very dirty. And yes, Stevie would not do that...
Amber

Johnny Stew · #53 09-30-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Then how do you explain Joe Walsh?

I thought that was sooo funny, I had to post it.

Gotta hand it to you, Homer... that was funny!

amber · #54 09-30-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Then how do you explain Joe Walsh?

I thought that was sooo funny, I had to post it.

Yeah, but technically he was "beneath Stevie"

AMber

Johnny Stew · #55 09-30-2004, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Yeah, but then you won't know what "really happened". I mean, it's fine to not want that, but sometimes, usually, the truth can be very dirty. And yes, Stevie would not do that...

It's not that you wouldn't know what "really happened," per se... it's just that you'd get, as I said, a romantized version of it all.

I guess I just don't tend to agree that one has to "dish the dirt" in order to be honest.
That particular mindset is... and this is absolutely not directed at you... akin to the 'Jerry Springer Show' mentality, in my opinion.

I've always had more respect for people who, while being completely honest, still maintain a level of decorum and class.

amber · #56 09-30-2004, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

It's not that you wouldn't know what "really happened," per se... it's just that you'd get, as I said, a romantized version of it all.

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Well, obviously I see your point, but a "romantasized version" isn't really the truth, is it? Like, say about L & S fighting...she couldn't really say "and then he screamed that i was a f******* no talent wh***, and I slapped him and told him to go f*** himself, he is just jealous cause people like my songs better!" right? If she said, instead "I just bug Lindsey to death, and we just couldn't really get along" - well, that, to me, doesn't really tell me anything

cause i'd be like - why didn't you get along? how didn't you get along?
know what i mean?
Amber

dissention · #57 09-30-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

It's not that you wouldn't know what "really happened," per se... it's just that you'd get, as I said, a romantized version of it all.

"Romanticized" sounds like a romanticized way to say "whitewash."

I distinctly remember her saying that she's going to release a book that tells the truth and doesn't gloss anything over, but that she'll wait until everyone is dead before doing so.

dissention · #58 09-30-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Well, obviously I see your point, but a "romantasized version" isn't really the truth, is it? Like, say about L & S fighting...she couldn't really say "and then he screamed that i was a f******* no talent wh***, and I slapped him and told him to go f*** himself, he is just jealous cause people like my songs better!" right? If she said, instead "I just bug Lindsey to death, and we just couldn't really get along" - well, that, to me, doesn't really tell me anything

cause i'd be like - why didn't you get along? how didn't you get along?
know what i mean?
Amber

Exactly.

Go into detail or don't even bother because, otherwise, it's a waste of my time to read it, let alone a waste of my money to buy it. I'd love it if she took Grace Slick's example and wrote something like she did. I think that if Stevie whitewashed stuff, the reviews would be devastating because no self-respecting reader would buy into any lily-white, sanitized versions of events. She'd certainly be called out on having long nets of white clouding her memories.

Johnny Stew · #59 09-30-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Well, that, to me, doesn't really tell me anything

cause i'd be like - why didn't you get along? how didn't you get along?
know what i mean?

Understood.

But then a statement such as, "Lindsey and I have had terrible fights... screaming, cursing, physical violence... because of jealousy and egotism on both of our parts," is basically saying the same thing as, "and then he screamed that i was a f******* no talent wh***, and I slapped him and told him to go f*** himself, he is just jealous cause people like my songs better"... but in a less sensationalistic way.

Know what I mean?

amber · #60 09-30-2004, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

"Romanticized" sounds like a romanticized way to say "whitewash."

I distinctly remember her saying that she's going to release a book that tells the truth and doesn't gloss anything over, but that she'll wait until everyone is dead before doing so.

Great, not to be morbid, but I think Lindsey's goin' last...and plus, why should she care after what Mick did?

Amber