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Old 04-08-2004, 09:24 PM
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OMG - Betty Bowers has spoken on Condie and it is hys f'in sterical

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http://www.bettybowers.com/condoleezza.html
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Old 04-09-2004, 10:41 AM
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You guys on the 9/11 Commission? What a joke. This is supposed to be a non partisan commission?! Tell me that that asshole Bob Kerrey doesn't have an agenda. He was too busy going on about his "swatting at flies" diatribe to even listen to Condi answer. She testifies to give answers to questions and then a few of the commissioners want to put words in her mouth. Incredible! Honestly, I thought she did real well and handled herself very professionally. I hope that the real purpose of the commision is achieved and that is to find out what went wrong and to make sure that it doesn't happen again. Please don't politicize this!!
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You guys on the 9/11 Commission? What a joke. This is supposed to be a non partisan commission?! Tell me that that asshole Bob Kerrey doesn't have an agenda. He was too busy going on about his "swatting at flies" diatribe to even listen to Condi answer. She testifies to give answers to questions and then a few of the commissioners want to put words in her mouth. Incredible! Honestly, I thought she did real well and handled herself very professionally. I hope that the real purpose of the commision is achieved and that is to find out what went wrong and to make sure that it doesn't happen again. Please don't politicize this!!


She didn't answer the questions that were asked, she dodged them as eloquently as she could and tried to shift the focus of the questions to the administrations re-election platform. And it's not only the Democrats on the commission with an agenda, the Repubs have one, too: to protect the administration by posing unrealistically soft questions.
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White House Works to Declassify Al Qaeda Threat Memo
Fri Apr 9, 4:21 PM ET Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!


By Steve Holland

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - Under pressure from the 9/11 commission, the White House on Friday worked to declassify an intelligence memo that was used to inform President Bush (news - web sites) on Aug. 6, 2001, that Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) wanted to launch attacks inside the United States.
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You mean any more so than Bushco has been doing since it happened and the RNC holding their convention in New York City? That should be some interesting television.
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You mean any more so than Bushco has been doing since it happened and the RNC holding their convention in New York City? That should be some interesting television.

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Old 04-09-2004, 06:48 PM
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You guys on the 9/11 Commission? What a joke. This is supposed to be a non partisan commission?! Tell me that that asshole Bob Kerrey doesn't have an agenda. He was too busy going on about his "swatting at flies" diatribe to even listen to Condi answer. She testifies to give answers to questions and then a few of the commissioners want to put words in her mouth. Incredible! Honestly, I thought she did real well and handled herself very professionally. I hope that the real purpose of the commision is achieved and that is to find out what went wrong and to make sure that it doesn't happen again. Please don't politicize this!!
Well, she did her own fair share of side-stepping and talking around the anser to the yes no questions. IMO, this hearing should have had no live audience as all people concerned were playing to it. It should, however have been televised or at least the transcript made available.

Interestingly, CR did everything but admit the bucj stopped at her and she screwed up, which she did. i mean if she'd have just said that or something like it, then explained why she screwed up, and then that she was working as hard as she could never to let it happen again - all in three or four sentences, one of which included "the buck stops with ME and I am sorry to letting you down," many more people would be applauding her in and outside of that room. I mean clearly her office made a huge mistake, so why not have the nads to admit it. I think that is why alot of people are pissed at her or at least have lost respect for her even though they realize as she said "their was no silver bullet" that could have stopped the 9/11 attacks. I mean it was her job to find that silver bullet and the information was available if she, or anyone else for that matter, had been wise enough to connect the dots and with a little luck.
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from Cynthia Tucker in the AJC (www.ajc.com)

Bush speaks of truth, but doesn't tell it

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 04/11/2004


"We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators."

-- Vice President Dick Cheney, March 16, 2003


As a candidate, President Bush pledged to restore integrity to the White House. Against the backdrop of President Clinton's repeated lies about a sordid adulterous affair, Bush ran on his claims to be a man of strong character -- a politician of plain speaking and straight talk. He wouldn't lie to us.

Yet, this administration has produced more dissembling and distortion, more fabrications and pseudo-facts than any White House in recent memory -- Richard Nixon's included. The Bu****es lie brazenly and repeatedly, refusing to back down even when caught in the web of their own contradictions.

The falsehoods aren't limited to Iraq. In domestic policy Bush administration officials have shaded the truth, spread lies and even threatened underlings who believed in a moral obligation to honesty.

As just one example, the chief Medicare actuary, Richard S. Foster, has said his supervisor, Thomas Scully (who recently joined an Atlanta-based law firm that lobbies on behalf of hospitals and drug companies), threatened to fire him if Foster revealed to Congress the true costs of the proposed prescription drug benefit for Medicare. While the administration was ramming the costly benefit through Congress -- promising that its price would be no more than $400 billion over 10 years -- Foster had calculated the actual cost at between $500 billion and $600 billion, figures the White House disclosed after the bill passed.

But there is no area that better demonstrates the Orwellian quality of the Bush administration -- its insistence that black is white, up is down, war is peace -- than its deceptions about Iraq. Testimony under oath before the Sept. 11 commission and the Iraq uprising make increasingly clear that the central underpinning of the president's re-election campaign -- that he has conducted a tough-minded war on terror -- stands the truth on its head.

In fact, ousting Saddam Hussein has been a costly diversion from the war on terror. The Bu****es came into office obsessed with Saddam, and when they could find no evidence that he represented an immediate threat, they simply manufactured it.

Now, our troops are trapped in a quagmire. Osama bin Laden is still at large. And the occupation of Iraq cannot help but breed a new generation of terrorists: Every time U.S. soldiers hit a mosque with mortars or strafe a carload of civilians mistaken for insurgents, another dozen teenage boys in Egypt or Saudi Arabia or Iran become America-hating jihadists.

Bush and his underlings lie when there is no reason to. In response to Richard A. Clarke's charge that his administration didn't view the al-Qaida threat as urgent, the president might simply have agreed and apologized. Few Americans would hold him responsible for failing to anticipate an attack as evil in its creation and brazen in its execution as Sept. 11.

Besides, Bush had already admitted his failure to forecast the immediacy of the al-Qaida menace. In "Bush at War," published last year, Bob Woodward quoted the president as saying he "didn't feel that sense of urgency" about bin Laden before the attacks.

Nevertheless, the administration greeted Clarke's charges with character assassination and fabrications. Vice President Dick Cheney went on Rush Limbaugh's radio show to dismiss Clarke as "out of the loop," a characterization National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice was forced to refute, since Clarke was at the center of the administration's anti-terrorism efforts.

The entire premise of the Bush presidency -- that he is a man of principle, of honor, of candor -- is crumbling. The chaos engulfing Iraq is not just the result of guileless miscalculations. It is the inevitable outcome of a policy built on mendacity.
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Here's a link to Condi's opening statement to the 9/11 Commission in case anyone wants to read it.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20040408.html
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Here's a link to Condi's opening statement to the 9/11 Commission in case anyone wants to read it.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20040408.html
I watched it once and I can only vomit once a week.
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I think that is why alot of people are pissed at her or at least have lost respect for her even though they realize as she said "their was no silver bullet" that could have stopped the 9/11 attacks.

Quite the contrary, people view her more favorably now then before her testimony at the 9/11 Commission.

From dissention's thread "Polls: Rice testimony Changed Few Minds":

"Two-thirds of those who watched, 64 percent, said they have a favorable impression of Rice — slightly higher than her overall favorable rating among all those polled and higher than the 50 percent who viewed her favorably in a March Gallup poll."



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Please tell me you people saw Saturday Night Live last night!!!!!!!!!

in sum and from foxnews.com

NEW YORK, New York — It was inevitable: Janet Jackson spoofing her infamous wardrobe malfunction by flashing a heavily pixillated breast on "Saturday Night Live." The one surprise was the context. Jackson portrayed national security adviser Condoleezza Rice opening her blouse at the Sept. 11 commission hearings, in an opening skit on the comedy show.

The skit showed Vice President Dick Cheney, played by Darrell Hammond, suggesting Rice should "flash a boob" to distract the public from her testimony.

"Just one headlight, real quick," he said. "It does two things. You win over the liberals, plus, it's a distraction for the press. I guarantee that's going to be the headline, not the bin Laden thing."

Jackson, as Rice, huffily refuses.

"I am not a prude, sir, but this hearing is not the forum for that kind of lewd conduct," she said. "There are other forums, like pay television or national sporting championships. That would be fine, but I am the national security adviser."

Cheney reluctantly agreed. "It was Ashcroft's idea," he said.

The scene shifted to the commission hearing. Rice, tongue-tied under questioning, opened her blouse and pretended to reveal her right breast — the same one seen by millions of Super Bowl viewers during her halftime performance.

This time, the breast was heavily blurred by the network.

Jackson was the guest host and musical guest on "Saturday Night Live."


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Please tell me you people saw Saturday Night Live last night!!!!!!!!!

Yep, I saw it. My God, those facial expressions of Janet's...kind of like a beaver on X? I dunno.
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