The truth about Kerry

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by CarneVaca

But you read one stupid little column about an appearance Ralph makes and that's enough to question the character of a great American who has done more fo you and me than Kerry could ever hope to.

Wait just a minute. You're talking about someone who volunteered to go serve on a boat and get shot at in the Mekong Delta during the height of the Vietnam war. Are you saying you don't respect that? What about BCCI or his environmental policies, his stances on women's issues and veteran's benefits? That's not doing anything for the American people? No, the only people who are in it for themselves here are Nader, Bush and the people that vote for them. A vote for Nadir is a vote for Bush.

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Wait just a minute. You're talking about someone who volunteered to go serve on a boat and get shot at in the Mekong Delta during the height of the Vietnam war. Are you saying you don't respect that? What about BCCI or his environmental policies, his stances on women's issues and veteran's benefits? That's not doing anything for the American people? No, the only people who are in it for themselves here are Nader, Bush and the people that vote for them. A vote for Nadir is a vote for Bush.

I'm sure as hell not going to vote for somebody because he served in Vietnam. I'm not disrespecting that, but I don't happen to think that driving a boat up the Mekong automatically qualifies you for the presidency. As for the other issues you mentioned, I'm not taking that away from him either.

But I'm more concerned about how he's acted in this time of current crisis. He hasn't shown leadership. He's kowtowed to the administration only to turn around and lambast the Bushers.

Robert Byrd was once a member of the Klan. Yet, he has taken a far more courageous stance on our current situation than rubber-spine Kerry. If I were to make a decision on Byrd's character, I would do so based on the man he is today, not who he was 40 years ago. The same goes for Kerry.

[dissention]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
You make me laugh. You're willing to forgive Kerry all the violations of your own principles, all the transgressions in the world. But you read one stupid little column about an appearance Ralph makes and that's enough to question the character of a great American who has done more fo you and me than Kerry could ever hope to.

Sorry, but that doesn't even pass rationality test.

I'm glad I'm making you laugh, doll. I'm not willing to forgive Kerry for his f*ck-ups, it's quite the opposite. The only thing I'm willing to do is give the best man available at the moment the opportunity to get into the White House. And it's John kerry. Regardless of what you think of the man, he is the best man for the job at this time in our country. I hate to break it to you, but voting for Nader is a wasted vote. I could give two ****s whether you belive it or not, but it's the truth. Call it voting with your conscience or whatever bull**** it's called, it does no good to vote for him. End of story. He is not electable and he's too liberal for mainstream America. He wouldn't be able to pass anything through Congress, either. The fact that he is in cahoots in any form with Newman is scary. It isn't a mistake, it's a f*ck-up. Personally, I'd rather have a man in office who voted like Kerry did than have a man who hangs around with newman in office. It's common sense, man. He can be as great an American as JFK, but if he gets further involved with Newman, he won't have any support. Except yours.

You make me laugh because of your blind support for a man that is acting out of selfishness and who has become crazier as the years burn on. Nader needs to use this time to help America like he did so many years ago, not try to further his crazy political aspirations by joining up with the first insane group he finds. I'm rather shocked that you of all people could defend him for his Newman alliance.

[CarneVaca]

Dissention, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on what's worse:

Voting for an illegal war that has left upward of 10,000 dead so far, and is still killing Americans daily, then shrugging your shoulders later claiming you were misled.

Or appearing with a distasteful character at a rally.

I'll go with the guy who didn't have a hand in killing anybody. But... that's me and my "bull****" position.