Fleetwood Mac Greatest Hits rerelease

[bwboy]

So I just saw that Rhino is rereleasing the 1988 Greatest Hits on vinyl AND CD, with several more tracks added, such as the Chain, Silver Springs live, Think About Me, Never Going Back Again, Oh Diane, Landslide, and a few more. Noticeably NOT included are any singles released from Behind the Mask or Time, or even any of the 4 new songs from The Chain boxset. So unfortunately, Christine gets the short end of the stick here.

[Macfan4life]

This is about 20 years overdue. How they left off Think About Me on the original is a crime. The song is not even 3 minutes and it could not fit? You can hear the live version of Silver Springs on The Dance. They should have included the studio version. But all of you Seven Wonders fans shall rejoice! But at least Oh Diane made the cut

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

So I just saw that Rhino is rereleasing the 1988 Greatest Hits on vinyl AND CD, with several more tracks added, such as the Chain, Silver Springs live, Think About Me, Never Going Back Again, Oh Diane, Landslide, and a few more. Noticeably NOT included are any singles released from Behind the Mask or Time, or even any of the 4 new songs from The Chain boxset. So unfortunately, Christine gets the short end of the stick here.

Aren't most of the songs on this deluxe edition, Christine's songs?

Notice they didn't include Sweet Girl, Temporary One, Bleed To Love Her, Say You Will, Peacekeeper, Sad Angel, or Without You either.

[Villavic]

Well, it was that or the two hundred and seventy-fourth special edition of Rumours.

As a fan, there are several singles I would have included. But I don't know if they should be considered "hits". Though I wouldn't buy it anyway, cause I think I have all songs and repeated. Unless they were unreleased/demo/alternative/early versions. Because that's usually what you'd find in a DELUXE edition, which doesn't seem to be the case this time.

[Macfan4life]

Why is Love In Store neglected again? It was the third single from a #1 album. It charted rather well for not having a video in the peak MTV era. It hit #22 for 3 weeks

Mirage had songs cockblocked like crazy. Hold Me 7 weeks at #4. Gypsy 3 weeks at #12 and Love in Store 3 weeks at #22 which made these singles much bigger than their chart peaks.

BTW. I see that Stevie's rehab during Gypsy's video shoot made Wikipedia. She could not get through the shoot without cocaine and the shoot could not be rescheduled. She had a miserable experience making the video.

Nicks especially remembers the experience as unpleasant. Two weeks before the shoot, she had gone into drug rehabilitation to try to overcome her cocaine addiction. However, the video shoot could not be rescheduled, and she had to take a break for it. Near the end of the first of three days of the shoot, Nicks was exhausted and said she needed cocaine. A small bottle was discreetly given to her, though it was thrown out before she could use any. Nicks later said, "I think we would probably have gone on to make many more great videos like 'Gypsy' had we not been so into drugs."[21]

The aforementioned issues Nicks was having were further strained by having to work closely with her former boyfriend Lindsey Buckingham. "We weren't getting along well then. I didn't want to be anywhere near him; I certainly didn't want to be in his arms," Nicks said of the scene where the two are dancing. "If you watch the video, you'll see I wasn't happy. And he wasn't a very good dancer."[21] In 1983, the music video received an award of Special Merit during the American Video Awards.[22]

Stevie hated dancing with Lindsey. Now I want to know who threw out the bottle of cocaine? We need answers!!!!!

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

The aforementioned issues Nicks was having were further strained by having to work closely with her former boyfriend Lindsey Buckingham. "We weren't getting along well then. I didn't want to be anywhere near him; I certainly didn't want to be in his arms," Nicks said of the scene where the two are dancing. "If you watch the video, you'll see I wasn't happy. And he wasn't a very good dancer."

I agree that they weren't Fred and Ginger at all. But they didn't seem inevitably unhappy (while dancing) to me. I've always interpreted the lyrics as something nostalgic, and in the ochre and the b/w scenes from bygone eras, she appears serious or melancholic; even the woman serving from the pot is from the Great Depression of '29 so her gestures made sense to me and confirmed my perception of the lyrics. So, their serious faces while dancing seemed to fit the scene. Contrary to the last colorful scene in that fantasy forest, where she dances and there she does seem more cheerful.

[UnwindedDreams]

Were Monday Morning, Second Hand News, and Gold Dust Woman not singles or hits? They’re not on this track listing.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I agree that they weren't Fred and Ginger at all. But they didn't seem inevitably unhappy (while dancing) to me. I've always interpreted the lyrics as something nostalgic, and in the ochre and the b/w scenes from bygone eras, she appears serious or melancholic; even the woman serving from the pot is from the Great Depression of '29 so her gestures made sense to me and confirmed my perception of the lyrics. So, their serious faces while dancing seemed to fit the scene. Contrary to the last colorful scene in that fantasy forest, where she dances and there she does seem more cheerful.

Who threw away the bottle of cocaine? Was it to purposely mess with her or try and get her sober?
She was jetting all over the place in 1981 but almost impossible to get clean during a major album promotion and upcoming tour.
Lesson learned. No wonder they stayed separate and filmed alone during the Hold Me video. I also think the Mirage tour left a bad taste in Lindsey's mouth and did not want to repeat it with Tango even though it was originally also going to be a short US tour.

[Macfan4life]

Another thing that does not make sense is they include As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked with that lineup but don't include that lineup's only top 40 hit Save Me?
Should not a Greatest Hits package include the hits?

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I also think the Mirage tour left a bad taste in Lindsey's mouth and did not want to repeat it with Tango even though it was originally also going to be a short US tour.

That's why he should have said NO to the tour from the start and not agreed to those 8 weeks at any point. I'll make the album with you guys to help Mick, but no tour. If you don't like it, goodbye.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

That's why he should have said NO to the tour from the start and not agreed to those 8 weeks at any point. I'll make the album with you guys to help Mick, but no tour. If you don't like it, goodbye.

I think the part of him that was doing it to get Mick out of bankruptcy wanted to do as much as possible. He probably probably reluctantly agreed but then the reality hit him that he could not do it. But you are right, he should have been upfront. Chris said in an interview in late 1987 that was what the Little Lies were. They knew he wanted to leave but never came out to declare it. Always very coy. In late spring 1987 there was a national broadcast promoting Tango with all the members. It was on radio stations all over the United States. At the end they asked Lindsey about touring. He gave a very evasive answer which hinted there could be a tour but he did not say "we are hitting the road for a few months." I think he thought he could do it until he couldn't.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Another thing that does not make sense is they include As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked with that lineup but don't include that lineup's only top 40 hit Save Me?
Should not a Greatest Hits package include the hits?

I agree that Save Me, at least, should have been included. And I would imagine that since this is a rerelease, they wanted to only add songs, not subtract any, which is why As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked were included. Otherwise it wouldn’t be a true rerelease.

[Villavic]

I guess they included As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked because they took the original GH and said Ok, for a deluxe edition let's take the original and just add more songs.

But whoever decided the final tracklist should have awakened more of their neuronas and make it better. Well, I'm a bit sarcastic, cause it's also true that you can't please everybody. For example, I'm not crazy about "Save Me." Whether they include it or not wouldn't affect me (if I wanted to buy this album). But other songs would.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I guess they included As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked because they took the original GH and said Ok, for a deluxe edition let's take the original and just add more songs.

But whoever decided the final tracklist should have awakened more of their neuronas and make it better. Well, I'm a bit sarcastic, cause it's also true that you can't please everybody. For example, I'm not crazy about "Save Me." Whether they include it or not wouldn't affect me (if I wanted to buy this album). But other songs would.

I am not crazy about Greatest Hits packages. However if you have a "Greatest Hits" should you not include the hits i.e. meaning songs that were released as singles or charted? Of course you can include the songs like Landslide and The Chain that were not officially released as singles but still receive classic rock airplay. I know they cannot remove songs since it would not be a re-release. But charting songs should be included. After The Glitter Fades and Nightbird should of been on Timespace. I dont like Nightbird but realize it was a top 40 hit.
First world problems I know. But this highlights the oddity of ignoring the Vito/Burnette era of the band. They cannot remove No Questions Asked but cant inclued Save Me?
Never Going Back Again?

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

However if you have a "Greatest Hits" should you not include the hits i.e. meaning songs that were released as singles or charted?

That is THE question, along with How do you know what songs are considered “the very best”?

Just for example, I remember local radios played some B sides of Donna Summer singles much more than the actual single. Like Winter Melody(side B) much more than Spring Affair (the official single). But none of those two were included in On the Radio: Greatest Hits Volumes I & II.

And talking about “the best”, I was checking the US 2002 release and UK 2009 re-release of “The Very Best Of”, they did include ALAYF, NQA, Skies the Limit and Paper Doll.

And 50 Years – Don't Stop is a compilation album that seems more like a box set than a GH (there’s a difference) cause they did included Save Me, Peacekeeper, Love Shines, but... no BTM songs of Rick or Billy.

Answer: Money, money, money! Must be funny in the rich man's world.