Stevie and John interview (1987)

[Macfan4life]

Part 2 of the interview
Its so nice to see John interviewed. He is the least interviewed of the band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syzirXdrOqw

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Part 2 of the interview
Its so nice to see John interviewed. He is the least interviewed of the band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syzirXdrOqw

With everything we know about the 80s' Stevie it's easy to say Hey she is drugged up, sedated, whatever, after she said What was I going to say? I may have lost this whole thing. But actually that has happened to me dozen of times, and to friends, while being sober; sometimes one goes on for so long explaining something that one forgets what one was originally going to answer.

But I see she is sincere when mentions Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc. and says I wanted to arrive in the helicopter..., etc. I mean, she dreamed of being a star, no doubt. I don't think Christine ever answered the same, correct me if I'm wrong. They were different persons. John's answer was also completely different, and very simple.

Whether being very different people made things easier or harder in the band, I guess it depended on the situation.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

With everything we know about the 80s' Stevie it's easy to say Hey she is drugged up, sedated, whatever, after she said What was I going to say? I may have lost this whole thing. But actually that has happened to me dozen of times, and to friends, while being sober; sometimes one goes on for so long explaining something that one forgets what one was originally going to answer.

But I see she is sincere when mentions Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc. and says I wanted to arrive in the helicopter..., etc. I mean, she dreamed of being a star, no doubt. I don't think Christine ever answered the same, correct me if I'm wrong. They were different persons. John's answer was also completely different, and very simple.

Whether being very different people made things easier or harder in the band, I guess it depended on the situation.

Stevie always wanted to be a star. Keith Olsen said she was going to be a "nobody or a superstar there was no in between."
In 2000 she revealed parts of her journal on the NicksFix. The ending to almost every entry was "walk like a queen."
But IMHO the biggest clue to her stardom was the letter she wrote her parents while recording Buckingham Nicks in the studio. It was not a normal child to parent letter. She wrote it as if she was already a superstar.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Villavic

With everything we know about the 80s' Stevie it's easy to say Hey she is drugged up, sedated, whatever, after she said What was I going to say? I may have lost this whole thing. But actually that has happened to me dozen of times, and to friends, while being sober; sometimes one goes on for so long explaining something that one forgets what one was originally going to answer.

But I see she is sincere when mentions Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc. and says I wanted to arrive in the helicopter..., etc. I mean, she dreamed of being a star, no doubt. I don't think Christine ever answered the same, correct me if I'm wrong. They were different persons. John's answer was also completely different, and very simple.

Whether being very different people made things easier or harder in the band, I guess it depended on the situation.

I don't think either John or Chris ever wanted to be a 'rock star...' they were more introverted and probably didn't dream of fame and helicopters lol. I'd guess being very different helped the group over time in certain ways...like it's good that stevie and chris were so opposite, they never really had to compete as women. and maybe it was good that J&C were so similar because it kept them kind of on the same page in all the years after the divorce, whereas L&S seemed quite different as people and ended up with a bit more friction. and Mick to me seems kind of like a chameleon who can adapt himself to various personalities to work towards a positive outcome.

chris once said about the band that they were "five quite strong minded, quite stubborn individuals, but somehow it seems to gel and we can always arrive at a musical agreement." and Lindsey has said that on paper you wouldn't think these people should all be in a band together lol. but the chemistry just worked. (with some ups and downs..)

they've always been such an interesting group of people.

--Lis

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

it's good that stevie and chris were so opposite, they never really had to compete as women. and maybe it was good that J&C were so similar because it kept them kind of on the same page in all the years after the divorce, whereas L&S seemed quite different as people and ended up with a bit more friction. and Mick to me seems kind of like a chameleon who can adapt himself to various personalities to work towards a positive outcome.

That's an excellent summary of the five and their dynamics.

[DownOnRodeo]

INTERVIEWER: Mick has recorded in Africa. Mirage was in Switzerland. So tell me -- why record in L.A.? The least exotic place. Where you live.
STEVIE and JOHN look at each other
STEVIE: ...Because we live there.

I guffawed out loud at this.

As soon as John actually starts talking, the interviewer erupts into a coughing fit and crew members start walking in front of the camera. I'm reminded of the Destiny Rules documentary, where Mick keeps answering all the questions and won't let John get a word in.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

INTERVIEWER: Mick has recorded in Africa. Mirage was in Switzerland. So tell me -- why record in L.A.? The least exotic place. Where you live.
STEVIE and JOHN look at each other
STEVIE: ...Because we live there.

WHAT? Had Switzerland gone to war with France and seized Hérouville? That's brand new information! Who was that interviewer who had such exclusive info?

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Part 2 of the interview
Its so nice to see John interviewed. He is the least interviewed of the band


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syzirXdrOqw

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

I don't think either John or Chris ever wanted to be a 'rock star...' they were more introverted and probably didn't dream of fame and helicopters lol. I'd guess being very different helped the group over time in certain ways...like it's good that stevie and chris were so opposite, they never really had to compete as women. and maybe it was good that J&C were so similar because it kept them kind of on the same page in all the years after the divorce, whereas L&S seemed quite different as people and ended up with a bit more friction. and Mick to me seems kind of like a chameleon who can adapt himself to various personalities to work towards a positive outcome.

chris once said about the band that they were "five quite strong minded, quite stubborn individuals, but somehow it seems to gel and we can always arrive at a musical agreement." and Lindsey has said that on paper you wouldn't think these people should all be in a band together lol. but the chemistry just worked. (with some ups and downs..)

they've always been such an interesting group of people.

--Lis

John is least interviewed in part by design on his part....especially in the later years he really absented himself from either individual or group interviews.


Re Chris and John, it's a very British thing (esp the English) to NOT make a spectacle of yourself. (Mick is something of the exception here). Brits have that dry, sharp humor that pops the ego balloon of anyone who gets too full of themselves or starts to think they're the center of everything. It's considered rather unseemly to flaunt your ego or your success around. That's why I love watching some of the behind the scenes stuff, especially in the earlier years of the 5 where Chris will say something that initially sounds kind of neutral but if you know Brits she is in fact skewering them... It's fascinating to watch especially when it goes right over the Americans' heads, especially Stevie.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

John is least interviewed in part by design on his part....especially in the later years he really absented himself from either individual or group interviews.


Re Chris and John, it's a very British thing (esp the English) to NOT make a spectacle of yourself. (Mick is something of the exception here). Brits have that dry, sharp humor that pops the ego balloon of anyone who gets too full of themselves or starts to think they're the center of everything. It's considered rather unseemly to flaunt your ego or your success around. That's why I love watching some of the behind the scenes stuff, especially in the earlier years of the 5 where Chris will say something that initially sounds kind of neutral but if you know Brits she is in fact skewering them... It's fascinating to watch especially when it goes right over the Americans' heads, especially Stevie.

oh yes i totally get that. and I adore the dry, sharp humor of both McVies! I have an old interview somewhere where chris was saying how the Americans half the time couldn't tell when the Brits were serious or when they were joking with them... it must have been a constant state of thinking, 'wait... Are they f*cking with me?'

--Lis

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

oh yes i totally get that. and I adore the dry, sharp humor of both McVies! I have an old interview somewhere where chris was saying how the Americans half the time couldn't tell when the Brits were serious or when they were joking with them... it must have been a constant state of thinking, 'wait... Are they f*cking with me?'

--Lis

Didn't Bob Welch say something about hating Christine's sarcastic wit? It's been too long to remember exactly what he said.....

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Didn't Bob Welch say something about hating Christine's sarcastic wit? It's been too long to remember exactly what he said.....

yesss I think he did, something about her having a sharp tongue. funny how often folks see chris as this quiet sweet angel in the band, but i don't think she was *always* quite that angelic lol

--Lis

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

it's a very British thing (esp the English) to NOT make a spectacle of yourself.

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way... Pink Floyd, Dark Side Of The Moon

I’ve always found funny in Destiny Rules doc at 1:02:10, after John's long speech about his bass parts when Mick says I want to say something, and John You’ve said enough, Jesus Christ!

https://youtu.be/SQOjptfZLJ4?t=3638

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

yesss I think he did, something about her having a sharp tongue. funny how often folks see chris as this quiet sweet angel in the band, but i don't think she was *always* quite that angelic lol

--Lis

I think she suffered no fools, and took few prisoners.

[Villavic]

Ken wrote in his Rumours book about the first time he met Christine, I remember she said something to him that, when I read it, seemed rather unfriendly to me. I don't remember what she said; it was a long time ago that I read that book, which I no longer have. But as I continued reading, I saw that Ken took it as a harmless funny sarcastic remark. And as he got to know her better, his opinion of her was very good, which was obvious and predictable.

[sue]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way... Pink Floyd, Dark Side Of The Moon

I’ve always found funny in Destiny Rules doc at 1:02:10, after John's long speech about his bass parts when Mick says I want to say something, and John You’ve said enough, Jesus Christ!

https://youtu.be/SQOjptfZLJ4?t=3638

Quiet desperation ? I prefer stoicism…

I’m not keen on Pink Floyd at all…(apart from Gilmour’s guitar playing))
I’m not a fan of their type psychedelic/prog rock or political, social lyrics.
So obv. I could be wrong.