You and I

[BLY]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Yes, it would have been nice, but I think Big Love was the coolest opener on the album. That song really rocks.

I never thought about the idea of starting and ending with You and I. I think the end of You and I pt 1 and the beginning of Big Love would have worked well.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by BLY

I never thought about the idea of starting and ending with You and I. I think the end of You and I pt 1 and the beginning of Big Love would have worked well.

I do, too. A little sort of overture/prelude.

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine.

. Have the two of them ever discussed the delegation of responsibilities for "Isn't it Midnight"?

It's Chris's song, but Lindsey changed the chorus music from major to minor, thereby putting the whole song in the minor key, giving it that darker sound, helped by the distorted guitar throughout. I forget where she mentions it. I imagine he also sped up the tempo a little bit.

[WalkAThinLine.]

Looking at the Fleetwood Mac FAQ book, it was indeed Droman who mentioned a story of Buckingham perseverating on properly attributing credit to a guitar riff that a kid from Northern California submitted to him via cassette. I'll include a snippet of what Droman said about the song; the name of which escaped him. However, he did say that he was relatively sure that the song made the album.

"There was a little panic because Lindsey lost the cassette and couldn't find the guy's name. There was some concern we were going to build the song around what this guy had sent, not be able to find him to give him credit, and maybe get sued...It wasn't a unique chord progression or anything, just a fairly common thing we were using part of."

Seeing that "Caroline", "Big Love", "Family Man", and parts of the title track were developed for Buckingham's solo album before the Tango in the Night sessions, that only leaves "You and I Part II" as the only other option. If we were to take into account songs that did not appear on the album, "Special Kind of Love" would be the only other real candidate.

[aleuzzi]

The “Where We Belong” demo is better than 1/2 of Tango, in my opinion. That’s such a great two minutes of fun. The tune sounds organic and you can hear both of them singing in the same room, possibly from the same mic. Even in unfinished form, it’s a delight.

I always thought “Caroline” was a good song but too Buckingham-centric (the theme, the lack of anyone else in the band playing on it) to be on an FM record. The same could be said for “Big Love,” but at least that has a a broader application. He isn’t writing specifically about Carolyn Harris—and the tune is tuneful. It’s still disappointing that no other member of the band appears to be on it.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

The “Where We Belong” demo is better than 1/2 of Tango, in my opinion. That’s such a great two minutes of fun. The tune sounds organic and you can hear both of them singing in the same room, possibly from the same mic. Even in unfinished form, it’s a delight.

I always thought “Caroline” was a good song but too Buckingham-centric (the theme, the lack of anyone else in the band playing on it) to be on an FM record. The same could be said for “Big Love,” but at least that has a a broader application. He isn’t writing specifically about Carolyn Harris—and the tune is tuneful. It’s still disappointing that no other member of the band appears to be on it.

Where we belong, is a little gem!

[Villavic]

If you ask me what song I would replace with When We Belong, I'd choose When I See You Again, but the fair thing would have been to replace it with a better Stevie song.

So if it had to be a Lindsey song, I'd choose Caroline. However WWB would fit also in Out Of The Craddle. Though it's a Lindsey/Chris song, they would have had to come to an agreement.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Villavic

If you ask me what song I would replace with When We Belong, I'd choose When I See You Again, but the fair thing would have been to replace it with a better Stevie song.

So if it had to be a Lindsey song, I'd choose Caroline. However WWB would fit also in Out Of The Craddle. Though it's a Lindsey/Chris song, they would have had to come to an agreement.

The more McVie(s) on his solo album, the better. Trust me on this!

[WalkAThinLine.]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

The “Where We Belong” demo is better than 1/2 of Tango, in my opinion. That’s such a great two minutes of fun. The tune sounds organic and you can hear both of them singing in the same room, possibly from the same mic. Even in unfinished form, it’s a delight.

I always thought “Caroline” was a good song but too Buckingham-centric (the theme, the lack of anyone else in the band playing on it) to be on an FM record. The same could be said for “Big Love,” but at least that has a broader application. He isn’t writing specifically about Carolyn Harris—and the tune is tuneful. It’s still disappointing that no other member of the band appears to be on it.

There's a level of cohesion on "Where We Belong" that's lacking on the rest of the album. Like you mentioned it actually sounds as if the two of them are tracking their parts in the same room. While "Caroline" is more or less a solo tune, I'm fairly certain that Mick and John are on "Big Love" in some capacity. While most of the song is centered around programmed drums, the snare drum backbeats on two and four don't have the consistency of a drum machine. The bass part sounds far too dynamic to be from Lindsey, but I could be incorrect. Lindsey said that the demo of "Big Love", which he developed on his own, was left mostly untouched from the transition to Fleetwood Mac. This undated demo is a far departure from the polish found on Tango in the Night, so I'm curious if he developed the song further during the sessions for his solo album before transferring it over to Fleetwood Mac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpdADIZPlfw

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpdADIZPlfw

That Big Love demo has a Go Insane album sound touch (an album I didn't like that much). Lindsey did a good job updating it to the version we got in Tango.

[Street_Dreamer]

The keyboard "riff" from Where We Belong would have fit in perfectly in Christine's 1984 album.

Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine.

There's a level of cohesion on "Where We Belong" that's lacking on the rest of the album. Like you mentioned it actually sounds as if the two of them are tracking their parts in the same room. While "Caroline" is more or less a solo tune, I'm fairly certain that Mick and John are on "Big Love" in some capacity. While most of the song is centered around programmed drums, the snare drum backbeats on two and four don't have the consistency of a drum machine. The bass part sounds far too dynamic to be from Lindsey, but I could be incorrect. Lindsey said that the demo of "Big Love", which he developed on his own, was left mostly untouched from the transition to Fleetwood Mac. This undated demo is a far departure from the polish found on Tango in the Night, so I'm curious if he developed the song further during the sessions for his solo album before transferring it over to Fleetwood Mac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpdADIZPlfw

[Villavic]

I was listening the whole Tango deluxe album yesterday. I bought just de digital (iTunes) edition when it was released. It's the best sound quality of all the deluxe and expanded releases I got, IMHO (among the classic formats, not comparing with Blu Ray audio or other enhanced available formats).

But about the bonus tracks, some are good but no big deal. And the remixes are meh. I think the best bonus track is the You and I+II 6:28 full version.

From all those re releases, the Rumours bonus tracks collection from the 2004+2013 editions is the best. A great opportunity to know all the pieces that made up The Chain, and beautiful early versions.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I was listening the whole Tango deluxe album yesterday. I bought just de digital (iTunes) edition when it was released. It's the best sound quality of all the deluxe and expanded releases I got, IMHO (among the classic formats, not comparing with Blu Ray audio or other enhanced available formats).

But about the bonus tracks, some are good but no big deal. And the remixes are meh. I think the best bonus track is the You and I+II 6:28 full version.

From all those re releases, the Rumours bonus tracks collection from the 2004+2013 editions is the best. A great opportunity to know all the pieces that made up The Chain, and beautiful early versions.

I think Buck/Vie collab on 2 fits so well with 1, and putting both pieces together is (and was) a beautiful thing to do. I played the whole deluxe set and this track surprised me. I love how the music made me stop and listened intently. Especially, the transition from one to another. It smacks you a bit.

And it feels like they "belong" together.