New Mirage tour live album on Spotify - Page 11

Macfan4life · #**151** 10-09-2024, 11:28 AM

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I focused my comment in the studio albums opinion. I do think Mirage is a good album and I like it a lot, but I think the songwriters' interest (specially Lindsey and Stevie) in further promoting their solo careers avoided them from including other songs that could have made the album a much better piece of work. Though pale imitation was an excessive criticism.

And the fact that the tour lasted so little time is a clue that the conflicts and nightmares that existed from the previous decade now weigh more than the interest in being a magical and extraordinary band that gives us its state of the art.

I think everyone brought their A game for Mirage. There is no padding IMHO except for Oh Diane

**jbrownsjr** · #**152** 10-15-2024, 06:31 AM

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I think everyone brought their A game for Mirage. There is no padding IMHO except for Oh Diane

That song is so bad!!

bombaysaffires · #**153** 10-15-2024, 05:46 PM

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That song is so bad!!

not sure I agree that it's "bad".... but I do agree it's a throwaway, filler song

David · #**154** 10-15-2024, 06:20 PM

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not sure I agree that it's "bad".... but I do agree it's a throwaway, filler song

As a pastiche of an earlier style that’s probably meant to be funny, it’s substantially better than “Blood on the Floor.”

**jbrownsjr** · #**155** 10-21-2024, 06:45 PM

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not sure I agree that it's "bad".... but I do agree it's a throwaway, filler song

There was a time that I liked it. But, I think I liked every single thing they did for a few moments. I could never get my head around this one in the context of the rest of the album. I sometimes don't skip it, but it's painful.
It does have that Everly Bros. thing, but I just think he could have given a much better song for them to work out.

Macfan4life · #**156** 10-22-2024, 05:07 PM

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There was a time that I liked it. But, I think I liked every single thing they did for a few moments. I could never get my head around this one in the context of the rest of the album. I sometimes don't skip it, but it's painful.
It does have that Everly Bros. thing, but I just think he could have given a much better song for them to work out.

Yes. Too bad Stevie was not given 4 songs for this album. Smile At You was brilliant and exactly what the album needed. However not a chance with Bella Donna still high on the charts they would mix things up. People before Bella Donna said Stevie was the lead singer of Fleetwood Mac but after Fleetwood Mac made that even more painful for the band. Its interesting that the video for Gypsy was filmed before Hold Me. Even if the record company or the band thought it should be the first single, Stevie's solo music was still on the chart so no way that was going to happen.
There is nothing I hate on Mirage. But its a bit safe. Smile At You is not safe and should have made the album. Its Mirage take is by far the best version of that song.

**jbrownsjr** · #**157** 10-23-2024, 10:45 AM

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Yes. Too bad Stevie was not given 4 songs for this album. Smile At You was brilliant and exactly what the album needed. However not a chance with Bella Donna still high on the charts they would mix things up. People before Bella Donna said Stevie was the lead singer of Fleetwood Mac but after Fleetwood Mac made that even more painful for the band. Its interesting that the video for Gypsy was filmed before Hold Me. Even if the record company or the band thought it should be the first single, Stevie's solo music was still on the chart so no way that was going to happen.
There is nothing I hate on Mirage. But its a bit safe. Smile At You is not safe and should have made the album. Its Mirage take is by far the best version of that song.

Agreed. But I don't see Mirage as safe. Hold Me sounds like nothing from that time. Gypsy is a safe hit (that I agree). But as an album, it was really an odd listen at first. Especially, with weird things like Eyes, Empire, Book, and of course. oh whoa HO Diane.

I think Lindsey calls it safe because the EQ's were set to normal production levels. and it wasn't recorded while he was laying naked in his bathroom shaving his privates rehearsing for the LIVE Not That Funny, screams and all.

Villavic · #**158** 10-23-2024, 11:23 AM

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I think Lindsey calls it safe because the EQ's were set to normal production levels.

I agree.

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and it wasn't recorded while he was laying naked in his bathroom shaving his privates rehearsing for the LIVE Not That Funny, screams and all.

Are those rehearsals included in any documentary video?

**jbrownsjr** · #**159** 10-23-2024, 12:03 PM

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I agree.

Are those rehearsals included in any documentary video?

Maybe that's why he sounds like he's crying. He cut himself and needed the kleenex box.

Macfan4life · #**160** 08-14-2025, 01:42 PM

I was cleaning the house today and always put in a CD. I played the hell out of this Mirage CD when I got it over a year ago. But its been about 6 months since I have played any songs. Dear Lord is this good. THIS was Fleetwood Mac. Please bring back all the cocaine because they were on fire. This is how they played. Every song is so fast and is so sharp. They explode out of the gate with 4 Rumours songs. Don't stop is the 3rd song and is some honky tonk faster version on a freaking real piano. The 1980 Live album was always a top 5 favorite. I will always love the tracks from the Rumours tour and some incredible Tusk cuts too. But having the entire set of both LA shows really makes this magic. The band just briefly slows down for a very impactful Brown Eyes and then goes right back to full throttle. The voices are incredible too. Chris on the Chain like she has never sung before. It gives the song such power. Stevie still hitting high notes in Sara. The best Landslide and NGBA too. Sorry for bumping this thread but this reminds me why I never pick up and play The Dance. It also reminds me why I felt disappointed by The Dance. While I loved that Lindsey was back and the band reunited the sound was nothing like the 70s and early 80s. This is catching lightening in a bottle. Why the hell it took them this long to put this out is a crime. No back up musicians. No back up singers yet its flawless and the music is so much better than any concert since.

Villavic · #**161** 08-14-2025, 03:56 PM

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I was cleaning the house today and always put in a CD.

I do that too! CD or any music documentary that has good music. Lately I put my Billy Joel collection, since I watched At So It Goes (great doc, by the way).

And lately Mirage Live and the Rumours Live 77 are my fave to listen while cleaning.

sleepless child · #**162** 08-14-2025, 05:07 PM

I'm listening to a bunch of Rumors concerts lately. They were so good!

Andy Man · #**163** 08-14-2025, 05:48 PM

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I think everyone brought their A game for Mirage. There is no padding IMHO except for Oh Diane

I have to agree with you. I've always felt that had "Goodbye Angel" been used in place of "Oh Diane" the album would have been even better...a classic, perhaps!

cbBen · #**164** 08-14-2025, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I was cleaning the house today and always put in a CD. I played the hell out of this Mirage CD when I got it over a year ago. But its been about 6 months since I have played any songs. Dear Lord is this good. THIS was Fleetwood Mac. Please bring back all the cocaine because they were on fire. This is how they played. Every song is so fast and is so sharp. They explode out of the gate with 4 Rumours songs. Don't stop is the 3rd song and is some honky tonk faster version on a freaking real piano. The 1980 Live album was always a top 5 favorite. I will always love the tracks from the Rumours tour and some incredible Tusk cuts too. But having the entire set of both LA shows really makes this magic.

I have a question about "I'm So Afraid": For the live 1982 version Stevie leaves the stage and Christine sings the backing vocal.

Who sings the backing vocal on the studio version (link below to the vocals only)?: Stevie, Christine, or both of them (see for example 1:57, 2:09, etc.)?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJWGRNCxO8

cbBen · #**165** 08-14-2025, 09:50 PM

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I think Lindsey calls it safe because the EQ's were set to normal production levels. and it wasn't recorded while he was laying naked in his bathroom shaving his privates rehearsing for the LIVE Not That Funny, screams and all.

I have long felt Lindsey mischaracterizes Mirage as devoid of experimentation. It doesn't have anything akin to "That's All For Everyone." But there is plenty of weird stuff whizzing around in the background of "Eyes Of The World" that would never be on Rumours.

I've also felt he mischaracterizes the actual choices available to the band given the material it had on hand in 1978-79. He presents the situation as one where he heroically forgoes the option, but the truth is the band didn't have the material to make a Rumours II even if it had wanted to. What songs in the mold of, and with the potential commercial appeal of, "Don't Stop" "Dreams" and "Go Your Own Way" did Lindsey pass on or make weird? Lindsey presents the situation as one of choosing artistic integrity at the expense of album sales. But I don't see that set of material–however produced or presented–generating more album sales than it did.