Trouble In Shangri-La outtakes

PenguinHead · #1 12-20-2003, 01:07 AM

While Thrown Down and Not Make Believe were recorded by Fleetwood Mac, and the Space Needle demo in circulation, I wonder if anyone has any information on the many other supposed Shangri-La outtakes. I forget what the source was, but I recall these other song titles... I wonder if any will pop up on the next Fleetwood Mac or solo record:

When Love Falls Apart
Thunder
So Far
What Would You Do
You're The Star
Rumours
Desert Skies
Butterflies
Soul Searching
Desperation
Just Crazy Love
Endless
The Grandfather Song

Josh2003 · #2 12-20-2003, 08:13 AM

I do remember seeing those titles circulating on the internet about the same time as TISL, but I don't think any of the songs themselves have ever been leaked.

The TISL outtakes that have been, though, include:

Thrown Down
Not Make Believe
Have No Heart
Annabel Lee
Space Needle

...am I missing any others? It's early and I'm not quite with it...

GardenStateGirlie · #3 12-20-2003, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by PenguinHead
While Thrown Down and Not Make Believe were recorded by Fleetwood Mac, and the Space Needle demo in circulation, I wonder if anyone has any information on the many other supposed Shangri-La outtakes. I forget what the source was, but I recall these other song titles... I wonder if any will pop up on the next Fleetwood Mac or solo record:

When Love Falls Apart
Thunder
So Far
What Would You Do
You're The Star
Rumours
Desert Skies
Butterflies
Soul Searching
Desperation
Just Crazy Love
Endless
The Grandfather Song

Does anyone have any mp3's of any of these songs? I can't say that i've ever heard of those. I do have Thrown Down, Not Make Believe, Have No Heart, Annabel Lee and Space Needle but not any of the others mentioned.

dissention · #4 12-20-2003, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
Does anyone have any mp3's of any of these songs? I can't say that i've ever heard of those. I do have Thrown Down, Not Make Believe, Have No Heart, Annabel Lee and Space Needle but not any of the others mentioned.

No, those songs have never circulated, Marissa.

I'd hunt for them if they were, though!

GardenStateGirlie · #5 12-20-2003, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
No, those songs have never circulated, Marissa. I'd hunt for them if they were, though!

Ahh..I guess no one stole these

dissention · #6 12-20-2003, 01:42 PM

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Ahh..I guess no one stole these

They must've been pretty bad...er, um...I guess that never stopped them before.

PenguinHead · #7 12-20-2003, 02:54 PM

lol! Maybe the would-be thief listened to them and decided that they weren't worth stealing!! I would have taken them anyway...I'd listen to a recording of Stevie snoring if it was available!

I suspect that some of those titles are songs that possibly were never worked on -- they may exist in lyric form only. Writers can copywrite lyrics without actually having a song developed.

Johnny Stew · #8 12-20-2003, 04:28 PM

We also have to keep in mind that, given the rumour-mill, some of these songs might not even exist.
(They were allegedly tbe songs she was recording with Dallas Austin.)

Prior to the release of 'Shangri-La,' there were also rumours that Stevie was recording updated versions of "Races Are Run" (which was to feature Lindsey), and "Long Distance Winner"... and those rumours proved false.
So keep that in mind.

"The Grandfather Song" is definitely real though. She wrote it in the '70s, part of it was quoted in her 1981 Rolling Stone cover story, and she sang some of it in her VH1 Behind The Music special.

dissention · #9 12-20-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Stew
We also have to keep in mind that, given the rumour-mill, some of these songs might not even exist.
(They were allegedly tbe songs she was recording with Dallas Austin.)

I'm surprised some of the songs she worke don with Dallas Austin haven't been leaked; I'd love to hear 'em.

EnchantedSLN · #10 12-20-2003, 10:04 PM

Stevie sings part of The Grandfather song in her Behind The Music episode ("my grandfather taught me to sing at four/ took me everywhere/ had me dancing on bars/ sing like you mean it, graunddaughter/ put your heart into it"), but a demo has never been circulated.

You can read the lyrics to What Would You Do on sararhiannon.com, but I don't believe a demo of that has ever surfaced either.

Thunder, So Far, and Rumors actually exist and are listed in Stevie's BMI repetoire. There was another song listed called "In The Darkness," but that disappeared after SYW was released, so I think that was most likely an early title for Everybody Finds Out ("when love starts out in the darkness..."). Just Crazy Love is listed in Stevie's repetoire as well, but it was there before any of the titles associated with TISL or SYW came up.

I don't know anything about the others, but I remember seeing that list a couple years ago too.

PenguinHead · #11 12-20-2003, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
I'm surprised some of the songs she worke don with Dallas Austin haven't been leaked; I'd love to hear 'em.

I always assumed, for some unexplained reason, that the songs she did with Kenny G were from those sessions -- Don't Treat Me Like A Stranger, Dial The Number and The Tragedy of One's Own Soul.

Interestingly enough, those songs were mentioned in a 1989 Rolling Stone article, reporting on the progress of her album. I thought the titles were intriguing. I was perplexed when the album came out and those songs were nowhere to be found.

David · #12 12-21-2003, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by EnchantedSLN
Thunder, So Far, and Rumors actually exist and are listed in Stevie's BMI repetoire. There was another song listed called "In The Darkness," but that disappeared after SYW was released, so I think that was most likely an early title for Everybody Finds Out ("when love starts out in the darkness..."). Just Crazy Love is listed in Stevie's repetoire as well, but it was there before any of the titles associated with TISL or SYW came up.

As usual, Tiff, you are a wellspring of assistance & insight.

Would Stevie dare write a song with the same title as an old Chris McVie tune? It's a song that Stevie knows (or knew) well, besides, because FM used to play it.

EnchantedSLN · #13 12-21-2003, 11:29 AM

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Would Stevie dare write a song with the same title as an old Chris McVie tune? It's a song that Stevie knows (or knew) well, besides, because FM used to play it.

I wonder about that too. I guess it must be the same song, I just can't imagine why Stevie would have a writing credit for a Chris track that was released before she even joined the band.

PenguinHead · #14 12-21-2003, 06:50 PM

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I wonder about that too. I guess it must be the same song, I just can't imagine why Stevie would have a writing credit for a Chris track that was released before she even joined the band.

It is very curious. Well, it is possible for Stevie to have written her own 'Just Crazy Love." I can't imagine her even considering covering Christine's song. There are many songs in existance that have the same name. It's bound to happen occasionally. Given Stevie's vast memory lapses, if she did write it, she probably completely about Christine's song. lol