Lindsey Buckingham's complaint against FM - Filed 10/9/18 in Los Angeles - document

[saniette]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

They said some stuff and shared absolutely nothing.

What does that even mean? I guess they weren't telling the whole truth then, so I agree. But their omissions were probably self-serving.

Do you have anything to add other than Stevie's innocent and Lindsey's guilty? We get it already.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

There was no contract. It was an oral agreement.

You clearly lack knowledge of the law. Oral contracts do exist, are valid and enforceable.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

And now we will find out what really happened at Music Cares. I hope some of the posters here like eating crow.

Better than eating goat

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by saniette

I agree, it doesn't make sense they would choose US Weekly of all places.

They are known for running planted stories. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just not organic.

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by jmn3

You clearly lack knowledge of the law. Oral contracts do exist, are valid and enforceable.

She....must....defend....Stevie....at all costs....oh she feels the need to twirl.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by jmn3

It’s all part of Lindsey’s evil plan to impact Stevie’s RRHOF nomination and Lincoln Nebraska FM ticket sales! I mean obviously when you get fired via telephone from a manager you should just bend over and take it.

Now we are going to find out if he was fired for cause.

[saniette]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

They were advised not to respond. They'd be foolish to ignore that advice.

Right, they'll do whatever Azoff tells them. Not exactly a moral defense though, and makes them look spineless.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It was probably an edict from management and legal. The nativity of thinking any of it is personal is almost cute.

I agree. It's an extremely naive viewpoint. FM is a business just like GM or Starbucks. Anything they said to him after his firing could be used against them so they stopped talking. I don't know why everyone is having such a fit about that. It's standard practice.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I think you're taking that comment way too seriously. I doubt Irv Azoff gives a crap about a little remark from one of the members of one of the bands he manages. This is Irving Azoff. He is a shark. Glenn Frey dying didn't phase him. As long as Lindsey and the rest of them showed up so that he could make his money, he doesn't care about the details. But when the big seat filler of Fleetwood Mac is threatening to walk, that's when he cares.

That little remark got a lot of attention. You can believe it didn't sit well to say the least.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by rhiannondontgo

Exactly. Everyone in this band knows that it’s a business first & foremost. Anybody who thinks Lindsey is any different from the rest of the group is delusional. Yes, these musicians may mean a lot to us and we love their art and may even look up to them. But we can’t delude ourselves so much that we can’t recognize that what they do is still a job. FM isn’t unique in this. The eagles don’t get along that well anymore either. Nor do the Stones. Or Heart. Or the GoGos. Pretty much none of the major bands out there record & tour together because they love being around each other. They do it for the money, the fame, and the adoration they get from the fans. It could be worse. At least Fleetwood Mac doesn’t hawk silly merch like KISS does with their coffins and pinball machines and sh*t.

Someone once posed the question that Kiss isn't so much a band as it is a marketing plan.

[DeepBlueDee]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

There was no contract. It was an oral agreement.

Isn't that pretty much the definition of an oral contract???

While more difficult to prove, an oral contract is, to the best of my knowledge, valid and binding, with the appropriate evidence to back it up.

https://www.lawdepot.com/blog/are-ve...gally-binding/

[saniette]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I agree. It's an extremely naive viewpoint. FM is a business just like GM or Starbucks. Anything they said to him after his firing could be used against them so they stopped talking. I don't know why everyone is having such a fit about that. It's standard practice.

... Or like Enron. So FM's just a filthy corporation then. That business model for bands is a relic from the past, like everything else about FM. Notice how Azoff only manages these dinosaur acts?

[The Chain]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

He is acting out of anger and not considering the consequences. This is not new behavior for him.

Does anyone have a chiffonhead translator? Can't seem to find the setting on Google. I can sort of understand some of the basics.. "Lindsey's evil", "Stevie can do no wrong" and "I ignore facts".. oh well, its always the same, maybe I don't need one after all!

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

He is acting out of anger and not considering the consequences. This is not new behavior for him.

So obviously you believe that all the dirty laundry that will come out about Lindsey will do him in or something. But, the street runneth both ways. Do you not think that some pretty awful things could come out from Lindsey's side about the four of them (plus God forbid, the patron saint of chiffon, glitter farts, and wellllllll's, Karen). You're insinuation that Lindsey is nothing but an aggressive, physically abusive lout makes it seem like Mick, John, Chris and Stephanie are just angels sitting by 'taking it' from big bad Lindsey for all of these years. I'm sure the five of them could all bring down the other four in a mutually assured destruction court proceeding. This will never go to a trial.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Someone once posed the question that Kiss isn't so much a band as it is a marketing plan.

'Scheme' Gene $immons is all about the dollar/profits...sure the upcoming "final tour" (Heard that one before there Gene) will rake in more $$$.