Stevie doesn't like to rehearse until after 3pm.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by JohnL

Like any of those people scrub their own damn toilets.

Yeah, the difference is that they never say they did. She, on the other hand, always the martyr....

[JohnL]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Did I say I was talking about you, honey? Sorry, can I call you honey?

This is ridiculous.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by michelej1

And his music gigs did earn them money. He was out working when she was in Aspen writing Landslide, mad because she had been left behind.

Michele

And she was travelling around the whole country because Daddy Nicks was president of Greyhound. But Lindsey is the spoiled brat....

[JohnL]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Yeah, the difference is that they never say they did. She, on the other hand, always the martyr....

Then why are you following her on Facebook and Twitter? Or why are you part of those fan groups? I just dont understand the need to constantly criticize.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by JohnL

This is ridiculous.

I know! But you started it, not me.

Try to read other people's comments. We're all pretty much telling you the same thing.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by JohnL

Then why are you following her on Facebook and Twitter? Or why are you part of those fan groups? I just dont understand the need to constantly criticize.

Who am I following? And I just don't understand the need to defend. But that's the world we're living in.

[JohnL]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I know! But you started it, not me.

Try to read other people's comments. We're all pretty much telling you the same thing.

Oh believe me I know. The same 4 or 5 people here always on her case. I like her...I will stand up for that because I enjoy her and her music. You dont like her...and I dont like Lindsey. So maybe we should just agree to disagree? I didnt mean anything by calling you honey either. For that, I apologize.

And I did not start this. I just get sick of the constant exaggeration of things that are said.

[elle]

Originally Posted by JohnL

No she's not. Thanks for pointing that out. And I am also not pathetic...but I guess that escaped you somehow.

Stuff like that would not escape me.

[JohnL]

Originally Posted by elle

Stuff like that would not escape me.

Well arent you a sly one. Say what you mean. You dont even know me.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by JohnL

Oh believe me I know. The same 4 or 5 people here always on her case. I like her...I will stand up for that because I enjoy her and her music. You dont like her...and I dont like Lindsey. So maybe we should just agree to disagree? I didnt mean anything by calling you honey either. For that, I apologize.

And I did not start this. I just get sick of the constant exaggeration of things that are said.

I don't like her recent view on the band and its members, but I used to like her, like many people here.

When you defy a group of people because you don't like what they're saying, you start the confrontation. But that's ok. I don't mind defending my point of view and I expect the same from the other side.

[JohnL]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I don't like her recent view on the band and its members, but I used to like her, like many people here.

When you defy a group of people because you don't like what they're saying, you start the confrontation. But that's ok. I don't mind defending my point of view and I expect the same from the other side.

There are a lot of Stevie fans here also so that really goes both ways. It is nothing personal...I would be game to keep my mouth shut if everyone else would do the same. I just think it gets ugly here about her.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by JohnL

There are a lot of Stevie fans here also so that really goes both ways. It is nothing personal...I would be game to keep my mouth shut if everyone else would do the same. I just think it gets ugly here about her.

What would be the point of all this if we keep our mouths shut? Glad to know you defend her point of view about the band and its members.

[24karatstevie]

The constant bickering from both sides of this website is ridiculous.

[bombaysaffires]

the fundamental problem is people don't want to ever admit their heroes have flaws. So when flaws are pointed out, they lash out at whoever points them out. It's the old "shoot the messenger" thing.

I love Stevie. I have loved her since the 70s. Barely a day goes by that I don't listen to her music, which I love. I also think for a long time she did indeed get a hard time from Lindsey and I admired her for not saying in the press the reality of what (I believe) happened at times with him.

That said, she has indeed changed over recent years. This isn't shocking, I mean everyone grows and changes over their life. It would be totally effed up if she was EXACTLY the same person she was ten years ago, let alone 30 or 40 years ago. We grow. We change how we feel about things. We soften on some things and we harden on some things.

If we accept that she's not a total pathological liar and actually believe her in some of what she's said recently (not just the Oz interview), she's now in the mindset that it's not worth recording with FM ever again, that she only wants to work with Lindsey when she "has to", she finds FM tours a bit boring and not creatively fulfilling, yet she will still do them because they sell well and make money. Records don't so the strain of making them (with FM/LB) is no longer worth it to her. She's a legend. Hoteliers in Italy need to frame her words because they are so spectacular, etc etc.

Look, she's pushing 70. She's done it all a million times. She knows what she wants and knows who she is and when you get older you get a bit crankier and more set in your ways. Whatever she says about Lindsey changes depending on what day it is, what their last interaction was, etc etc.

These are her foibles. They might disappoint you, but they are part of who she is now. Maybe she was always like this and we just never saw it. Or maybe it's age. Who knows. But lashing out at people who are only commenting on her own words and expressing how those words make them feel won't change reality.

[MoonSister75]

I think most of us know that everyone has flaws, including Stevie and every single member of this band. People on here who like Stevie and her solo work just get fed up with the regular trashing of her and her fans.

It is ok for us to attempt to get across out point of view, just once in a while.