Am I the only one that is bothered by...?

[TsnFan4Ever]

I went to Stevie's shows in Los Angeles and San Diego and thought her singing and the entire production was the best she's ever done. Maybe she isn't able to hit the high notes anymore but considering her age (most performers can't hit those notes anymore in their 60's) and the vocal problems she's had, I think her voice is stronger than it's been in many years.

I also love her story-telling. It gives so much more depth to the music and it's unfortunate that some of you don't like it. Most singer-songwriters don't share that much about themselves. The first time I remember Stevie sharing this much about her life and work was at her performance for Cal State Fullerton's Front and Center Program at Honda Center several years ago. Since then, she's added more stories to her solo tour and this year she's talking much more. It seems like she's trying to pass on her knowledge to the younger people who are coming to see her who don't know her history, as well as those of us who have been faithfully following her since the 70's.

If you don't like Stevie, her stories or her singing, I honestly don't understand why you even go to her shows or post messages on this MB. If you don't like her, please go see someone you do enjoy so that this thread can be positive again.

[petep9000]

If she can't hit the high notes anymore, and she previously could, how could Stevie's singing at that show be the best she's ever done?

[pattyfan]

Originally Posted by TsnFan4Ever

I went to Stevie's shows in Los Angeles and San Diego and thought her singing and the entire production was the best she's ever done. Maybe she isn't able to hit the high notes anymore but considering her age (most performers can't hit those notes anymore in their 60's) and the vocal problems she's had, I think her voice is stronger than it's been in many years.

I also love her story-telling. It gives so much more depth to the music and it's unfortunate that some of you don't like it. Most singer-songwriters don't share that much about themselves. The first time I remember Stevie sharing this much about her life and work was at her performance for Cal State Fullerton's Front and Center Program at Honda Center several years ago. Since then, she's added more stories to her solo tour and this year she's talking much more. It seems like she's trying to pass on her knowledge to the younger people who are coming to see her who don't know her history, as well as those of us who have been faithfully following her since the 70's.

If you don't like Stevie, her stories or her singing, I honestly don't understand why you even go to her shows or post messages on this MB. If you don't like her, please go see someone you do enjoy so that this thread can be positive again.

I'm not sure if this was directed at me. I"m the one who started the thread. I liked her stories and I started my posting by saying that I loved the show. But, still, I didn't like her shortening songs. If this wasn't directed at me, then...never mind.

Kevin

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by RavenOfRhiannon

Not only am I grateful, I am blown away by the variety, intensity and yes, the vocal performances on this tour.

Look, it's not 1977. It's not even 1985. Our girl is never going to sing like that again, but she's taking care of her voice now, and working very hard to give a good performance every night. Guess what? She's succeeding, and the audiences are responding.

I've seen the 18 minute Edge of Seventeen performances. I'm happy to give up 14 minutes of that to get a bit of Wild Heart, Bella Donna, AND the cape story.

^^^^THIS. Especially since she had mentioned years ago wanting to try a medly of the title songs and on this tour she was also promoting the wild heart and Belladonna RE-issues technically. Stevie is my favorite, but she is not really one to take risks that way, she does like to "try it out and see how well it goes over" and for the most part it has gone over really well. I like the shawl story it's beautiful and it lets her talk about her mom which you can see is special to her and I would never want to take that away from her. I agree with someone who posted earlier saying that she probably was not actually aware of how well the audience would respond to hear those songs,... now she knows

[Buster]

I think Stevie has put together such an epic show at a point in her career when I least expected it. I relished every moment, medley, stories, all.

[24karatstevie]

Yes this tour has been a wonderful surprise. And while I would have liked her to record with Fleetwood Mac, the more I think about it I realize that if she would have went into recording after On With the Show we probably would have never got the 24 Karat Gold Tour.

[24karatstevie]

Regarding the original post of the thread, I would rather have the WH/BD medley than neither of them or just one. When I heard the opening notes of Wild Heart for the first time I literally started crying I just couldn't contain my excitement. These emotions continued as it transitioned to Bella Donna. It would be awesome to have both songs in their entirety, but I actually kinda like them as a medley. They're the title tracks to the two albums that showed Stevie could make it as a solo artist and performing them together kind of brings everything full circle in my opinion.

[pryderi]

Originally Posted by 24karatstevie

Regarding the original post of the thread, I would rather have the WH/BD medley than neither of them or just one. When I heard the opening notes of Wild Heart for the first time I literally started crying I just couldn't contain my excitement. These emotions continued as it transitioned to Bella Donna. It would be awesome to have both songs in their entirety, but I actually kinda like them as a medley. They're the title tracks to the two albums that showed Stevie could make it as a solo artist and performing them together kind of brings everything full circle in my opinion.

And they transfer so well live.

[TsnFan4Ever]

Kevin,

My comments were not directed at you at all. You raised some very good points and I don't mind constructive criticism of Stevie or any other artist. Sadly, there are other people--including a couple who posted on this thread--who continually make derogatory comments about Stevie's singing, her commentary between songs, her clothes, etc., etc.

I agree with you about wanting to hear "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" in their full-length versions because they are both great songs and it's been so many years since she has performed them. Most people are hearing them live for the first time so it's sad that it's a medley--although I love the way she blends them together, just as I do the way "Outside the Rain" and "Dreams" blend in their medley. Sadly, "Outside the Rain/Dreams" was cut before our shows.

I just don't understand why people who feel so much dislike for Stevie need to come here and continually tear her apart (and I'm not speaking about anyone specifically--it's just a general attitude that seems prevalent). It's happening so much now because Stevie is choosing her solo concerts instead of recording on FM's new release--after she postponed this tour for two years so that she could tour with the group. Now it seems like it's Stevie target practice--especially on the "Rumours" MB. There are many things Lindsey has done over the years but I don't go on his message board and post a lot of negative comments about him. It's my opinion and I keep it to myself. We're all very, very fortunate that Stevie and Fleetwood Mac are still performing at all after all these years. Every show is a gift--at least that's how I see it.

[Phil]

…but is it a gift? Watered-down performances, former shadows of themselves, no demonstration of artistic integrity (on Stevie’s part)… What about quitting while you’re ahead and retaining a semblance of dignity? Just a thought mind…

[24karatstevie]

Originally Posted by Phil

…but is it a gift? Watered-down performances, former shadows of themselves, no demonstration of artistic integrity (on Stevie’s part)… What about quitting while you’re ahead and retaining a semblance of dignity? Just a thought mind…

Just curious to why you think Stevie is losing her dignity? I think this tour has a lot of artistic integrity. Stevie has crafted an entertaining experience with a phenomenal stage set, is performing more than just the greatest hits, and is providing the audience with history and insight on her songs. I think all of that is pretty artistic in its own way. Plus, I love getting a little motivational pep talk from Stevie when I go to see her. In my opinion these things display a high level of dignity and appreciation of her fans. She could have just done the same setlist without the careful attention to detail and just called it a day. Instead, she has created​ something new and memorable for her audience. I don't think that recording is the be all end all here.

[Nathan]

Looked like it might've been a good show last night with the cameras there!

[pattyfan]

Originally Posted by TsnFan4Ever

Kevin,

My comments were not directed at you at all. You raised some very good points and I don't mind constructive criticism of Stevie or any other artist. Sadly, there are other people--including a couple who posted on this thread--who continually make derogatory comments about Stevie's singing, her commentary between songs, her clothes, etc., etc.

I agree with you about wanting to hear "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" in their full-length versions because they are both great songs and it's been so many years since she has performed them. Most people are hearing them live for the first time so it's sad that it's a medley--although I love the way she blends them together, just as I do the way "Outside the Rain" and "Dreams" blend in their medley. Sadly, "Outside the Rain/Dreams" was cut before our shows.

I just don't understand why people who feel so much dislike for Stevie need to come here and continually tear her apart (and I'm not speaking about anyone specifically--it's just a general attitude that seems prevalent). It's happening so much now because Stevie is choosing her solo concerts instead of recording on FM's new release--after she postponed this tour for two years so that she could tour with the group. Now it seems like it's Stevie target practice--especially on the "Rumours" MB. There are many things Lindsey has done over the years but I don't go on his message board and post a lot of negative comments about him. It's my opinion and I keep it to myself. We're all very, very fortunate that Stevie and Fleetwood Mac are still performing at all after all these years. Every show is a gift--at least that's how I see it.

I feel better now. Thanks.

[Phil]

Respectfully, we obviously have differing viewpoints on what constitutes artistic integrity. I concede that the first show of the 24KG Tour offered some promise in terms of an alternate set-list but at this point (as expected) it's already become stale. Stevie has a habit of driving everything into the ground and consequently, any initial attraction is diminished within no time. However, quite apart from that, it is my opinion that she is no longer capable of performing live. Age and apathy have simply taken their toll. She no longer has 'it'. She's dull, listless and boring. There's no shame in that if you have the good sense to recognise it and make a hasty retreat but this stubborn old buzzard is lacking when it comes to introspection or insight.
As for the "motivational pep talks", once again, we will have to agree to disagree. Condescending and cringe-worthy just about sums it up for me. This absurd, rehearsed gibbering actually makes me physically ill. She's an embarrassment to the band and the music industry. I just wish she'd slide under a rock and never be heard from again.

[24karatstevie]

Originally Posted by Phil

Respectfully, we obviously have differing viewpoints on what constitutes artistic integrity. I concede that the first show of the 24KG Tour offered some promise in terms of an alternate set-list but at this point (as expected) it's already become stale. Stevie has a habit of driving everything into the ground and consequently, any initial attraction is diminished within no time. However, quite apart from that, it is my opinion that she is no longer capable of performing live. Age and apathy have simply taken their toll. She no longer has 'it'. She's dull, listless and boring. There's no shame in that if you have the good sense to recognise it and make a hasty retreat but this stubborn old buzzard is lacking when it comes to introspection or insight.
As for the "motivational pep talks", once again, we will have to agree to disagree. Condescending and cringe-worthy just about sums it up for me. This absurd, rehearsed gibbering actually makes me physically ill. She's an embarrassment to the band and the music industry. I just wish she'd slide under a rock and never be heard from again.

I don't have a problem with someone having a different opinion than me. Frankly I don't care if someone likes Stevie or not, or any artist for that matter. However, I think calling her a "stubborn old buzzard" just because she out there still performing is a bit much. I think any performer should be able to continue doing what makes them and their fans happy, even if they are older. I don't want to sound too antagonistic or anything, but your comments remind me of when Grace Slick stated that FM should throw in the towel because they are old. Why should anyone quit doing what makes them happy? Honestly, Stevie isn't hurting anyone.