Stevie commented on " Buckingham Movie" album

[lilyfee]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I know there were moments in the past but that was like 30 years ago I don't think it's really all that relevant anymore. I've read a lot of recent interviews and he's always complimentary of her songs and everything.

And introducing Buckingham McVie, he discussed how he enjoyed working on Christine's songs since he used to do that for Stevie but that had been a long time ago.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by lilyfee

And introducing Buckingham McVie, he discussed how he enjoyed working on Christine's songs since he used to do that for Stevie but that had been a long time ago.

Saying he hasn't worked on her songs in a long time isn't disrespectful to her or her work in any way. It's just the truth, because he hasn't.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by DauphineMarie

I think there's so much more to it than that... As we have all learned, what Stevie tells the press should be taken with less than a grain of salt. I personally think Stevie's run out of inspiration, therefore taking a toll on her songwriting. The "songs written about Lindsey while on tour" vault has been emptied - nothing new there. No new loves in her life - so we get rehashed stories from her days on the road, or things like the Kennedys

It would be embarrassing for her to return to FM with nothing but old songs, or really bad new ones, when Chris and Lindsey have been consistently writing.. I think she's just too prideful, and is biding her time until everyone else calls it quits so she can just do what she likes without the pressure of competition

This is so spot on!

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by DauphineMarie

Well that being said, it's historically been Lindsey that has put down most of Stevie's work.. what he said about her early solo albums.. Destiny Rules songwriting "Bob Dylan" drama..

I think years of putting up with his ego led her to create one even bigger than his to protect herself. She always said that without Lindsey, her songs would be nothing but little piano demos, but when asked about her songs, he was usually very passive or condescending.

I've listened to many song introductions on tour from bootlegs from Tusk and Mirage.. When Lindsey would introduce Sara, it was also quite dismissive. Introducing Sara, he would say "this was the other single of the infamous Tusk album, one of Stevie's called Sara". - This, said extremely condescendingly. Introducing Gypsy once, he said "Well this is the soon-not-to-be-current single, one that Stevie called Gypsy".

So at some point, I think walking away from someone who never appreciated you for what you were is a vital part of establishing healthy boundaries in relationships, something that Stevie has never really done well.

really cause on the live version of Sara I heard recently he called it "a song from Stevie and it's real pretty and it's called Sara"

[rockalilcutie25]

This is a Stevie Nicks message board. The things I read, Anyone that believes Stevie quit writing is not a fan. The bs about her tour, The Pretenders r not selling the tix trust me. Top 5 tour of 2016, I'm even surprised by this. She doesn't want 2 record, I wanted a new Mac album myself...But I luv solo Stevie more. She is my girl!!!! Luv y'all! Even the haters.

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by rockalilcutie25

This is a Stevie Nicks message board. The things I read, Anyone that believes Stevie quit writing is not a fan. The bs about her tour, The Pretenders r not selling the tix trust me. Top 5 tour of 2016, I'm even surprised by this. She doesn't want 2 record, I wanted a new Mac album myself...But I luv solo Stevie more. She is my girl!!!! Luv y'all! Even the haters.

Quite simply, she's broken our hearts.

[rockalilcutie25]

Buy a concert ticket. Not mine.

[Macfan4life]

Now its time to demonstrate my trained statement analysis training.
Stevie is not honest in this interview (big surprise). As usual she is full of contradictions. She says they are getting too old to record but not too old to tour? That makes no sense.
Notice how she singles out Christine and says something like the album will be good because Christine is very creative. She never mentions any other band member like Mick, John, Chris, and Lindsey are fantastic musicians and they will definitely create a fantastic album. She does not say that which reveals her inner bitterness towards the members for moving on without her.
Its really a shame because NEVER would anyone think Christine would come back to tour let alone create another album. The loss of one final album with all 5 members will never be. I expect the album will be better without her but its still a bummer the Fleetwood Mac history of recording had to end with a "duet" because one member chose not to participate but cant pass up the big bucks from touring.

[sleepless child]

I have no problem with Stevie saying she doesn't want to record anymore and just tour, but if you are in a band with 4 other people and the majority wants to record and you don't, then the obvious choice is to leave the group.

But it's apparent that she wants to stay in Fleetwood Mac so she can tour and rake in the money. Which is from us fans.

I love Stevie, but I am very disappointed in her mindset about this and I'm sure the rest of the Mac are frustrated also. I doubt if they want to go out as an oldies act.

[bwboy]

Macfan4life, you could be right. Maybe Stevie didn't say anything about Lindsey because of the old saying "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." At least she was complimentary towards Christine and she didn't bad mouth anyone.

She says nice things about Christine, doesn't take any digs at anyone else, and some people (not you, macfan, but others) seem to think she's being disrespectful. I kind of feel like Stevie can't win here.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Macfan4life, you could be right. Maybe Stevie didn't say anything about Lindsey because of the old saying "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." At least she was complimentary towards Christine and she didn't bad mouth anyone.

She says nice things about Christine, doesn't take any digs at anyone else, and some people (not you, macfan, but others) seem to think she's being disrespectful. I kind of feel like Stevie can't win here.

I actually feel sorry for her, in a strange way. Her celebrity is at a highpoint, her concerts are selling well, she is VERY high profile, but--and this is a big but--she seems genuinely traumatized by past experiences working with the band and, in particular, Lindsey. I want to say "get over it"--but you don't tell someone who is experiencing trauma to get over something. Moreover, Christine and Lindsey are on a writing streak. Stevie has not written new material in a while. Given past record reviews (especially of Tango and Mirage), Lindsey and Chris will get accolades for their collaborative partnership whereas Stevie will be likely to be compared negatively. When she works on her own, critics are much kinder.

One could say she brought some of this on herself: she has hoarded her best material for her solo outings and, with the exception of Gypsy (which, as the demo reveals, is really a feat of Mac production and group effort), her FM songs on Mirage and Tango were somewhat weaker than her solo songs (some people will argue with me on the merits of Straight Back--it's a good tune but is it as good as any five or six of the best songs from The Wild Heart?). She DID step up to the plate and hit a number of songs out of the park (forgive the sports metaphor) for Say You Will--but apparently working with Lindsey was so trying she can't bear to do it again.

The return of Christine is a bittersweet truth for her: she gets her friend back while on tour but then she is now faced with an inevitable record she has been trying to avoid recording since 2007. When Christine was absent, she could say, "if Christine came back..."; but now that she IS back, she resorts to other excuses. In truth, she seems written out, or, more probably, she can't bring herself to create something within the context of Fleetwood Mac. The process of song development under Lindsey's direction is too humiliating for her.

I really do feel sorry for her and am NOT upset that she backed out of the record. I am looking forward to the new McVie-Buckingham collaboration. However, I am annoyed and dismayed when she gives BS reasons for not wanting to create new music. I've also been upset with her--AND the remaining four--for letting her rhythms and whims decide the timeline for the band's new music.

Stevie has always needed a musical guide/muse to help her realize her musical potential. It used to be Lindsey, then it was Jimmy Iovine, then it was Rupert Hine, then, after a number of producers who came and went with the next two studio albums, it was Dave Stuart, who really allowed her to embrace what she is.

Now she seems kind of lost...

[SisterNightroad]

Actually I was thinking, wasn't her last contract with her label finished with 24 K Gold?
What if she's having problems with the record company about stipulating another one?

[jbrownsjr]

She talks about sales so much, I believe she really wants to stay validated by having fame. She has no love life, she's not interested in the band besides the major cash grab tour, thus, she's focused on staying in the spotlight.

She's got more money than she'll ever need. It's about staying relevant. And yes, she doesn't write solo, she needs help. She wants to choose who helps her. It's shallow at this point in her life, but it is her choice to be that kind of superficial artist. It's disappointing to a lot of fans.

[TsnFan4Ever]

I think Stevie is trying her best to be restrained in answering questions about the Buckingham McVie release. To her, it probably feels like the ultimate betrayal. All the years she spent with Lindsey, she wanted him to collaborate and write with her--and she felt like he never truly respected her songwriting talent. Now he's co-writing with Christine, her friend. Likely, this is bringing up feelings from the past as well as present.

Stevie has been writing--she's been a songwriter since she was 16 and writes in her journal every night. When her mother passed away, she wrote many songs about that experience. When she lost her dog last summer, she likely wrote many songs about that as well. And now she has lots of momentum to write about Lindsey and Christine's betrayal (which this is to her). But there's a difference between writing music and being ready to share them with the public--especially being able to perform them.

Stevie has had many losses in the last several years: her father, her mother and her Sulamith. Many artists would just sell their homes in LA and move home but instead Stevie chose to create an incredible set list and once-in-a-lifetime tour for her fans.

It's very sad that people can't be thrilled about what she's giving us and feel like they need to constantly tear her down. I've loved Stevie's music since seeing FM in 1977 and have been a fan of hers ever since. Through good times and bad, I've always admired her willingness to pick herself up no matter what was going on in her personal life and go onstage and sing. Most of her shows were great; sometimes she wasn't but she was always there for us and she was always there for FM.

Whatever Stevie chooses to do now (hopefully a solo release and continued solo tours; maybe FM last release and last tour), I support her.

[olive]

i can't speak for her

I wish her the best


i am not paying premium or top dollar to see a dinosaurs trudge through old songs so a bunch of old Farts can relive their youth or reflect on the most trying times in their lives * , just so she can extend the illusion of her fame


* not direct at any one here do not read into the comment it was in general at all the Sara Lily Rhiannon's i have sat near through the years crying during landslide