timing is right to put out 4/5 FM album and tour it!

[jkmaletic]

Originally Posted by elle

just giving the flow of quotes.

i don't really know whether or not Lindsey is egotistical. maybe he is. you are saying he is. can you give me some examples?

i do think Stevie very much likes to be in the limelight and she doesn't hide that. nothing wrong with that, she's an entertainer and that makes sense.

I guess you could argue that she's in the limelight when she singing her songs, and she kind of has to be. Otherwise she's kind of subdued when she tours with them, as compared to her solo shows. Doesn't smile as much, doesn't move around as much, etc.
As far as an example of Lindsey being egotistical, I really don't want to bring up something that's been rehashed over and over again on threads from the past. And by the way, I don't think being egotistical is necessarily a bad thing, although it can probably get in the way of production sometimes, which I think is just one of Stevie and Lindsey's issues with each other.
You know I've said before that Lindsey is a nice guy ( or at least he was to me). So no hard feelings.

Jamie

[elle]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

As far as an example of Lindsey being egotistical, I really don't want to bring up something that's been rehashed over and over again on threads from the past. And by the way, I don't think being egotistical is necessarily a bad thing, although it can probably get in the way of production sometimes, which I think is just one of Stevie and Lindsey's issues with each other.
You know I've said before that Lindsey is a nice guy ( or at least he was to me). So no hard feelings.

yeah i'm only bringing it up since people have stated it as a hard fact in this thread, what came across as a hateful way and as a very negative thing, so it bugged me and i wanted to explore what's behind their statements. and i don't know whether it's a fact. it may be.

but you've been always measured in all your posts and i love and respect that.

[jkmaletic]

Originally Posted by elle

yeah i'm only bringing it up since people have stated it as a hard fact in this thread, what came across as a hateful way and as a very negative thing, so it bugged me and i wanted to explore what's behind their statements. and i don't know whether it's a fact. it may be.

but you've been always measured in all your posts and i love and respect that.

Aww..that's nice. Thanks. Maybe you should come over sometime and we could sit out by my firepit, roast marshmalows and discuss Stevie and Lindsey. We could videotape it and start a series on youtube! Haha!

Jamie

[elle]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

she's kind of subdued when she tours with them, as compared to her solo shows. Doesn't smile as much, doesn't move around as much, etc.

not moving around as much might be due to any number of factors (i could never move in those high high platform heels!), but i think you might be referring to instances where she seemed disengaged and disinterested. i think that particularly happened on 2009 tour, and the reviews were brutal to her.

at some of his 2012 m&gs, when they were preparing 2013 FM tour, Lindsey was actually saying how much he didn't like she got all those bad reviews, and that he will try to make sure that doesn't happen on the upcoming tour.

of course, you wouldn't want him to hold back all that energy he brings to their live show!

[jkmaletic]

Originally Posted by elle

not moving around as much might be due to any number of factors (i could never move in those high high platform heels!), but i think you might be referring to instances where she seemed disengaged and disinterested. i think that particularly happened on 2009 tour, and the reviews were brutal to her.

at some of his 2012 m&gs, when they were preparing 2013 FM tour, Lindsey was actually saying how much he didn't like she got all those bad reviews, and that he will try to make sure that doesn't happen on the upcoming tour.

of course, you wouldn't want him to hold back all that energy he brings to their live show!

I'm comparing her not moving around and not smiling as much to her solo shows, where she does much more of that (as she should - she's the only singer on stage).

Jamie

[elle]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Aww..that's nice. Thanks. Maybe you should come over sometime and we could sit out by my firepit, roast marshmalows and discuss Stevie and Lindsey.

you know what, i bet that we'd have lots of fun! while i get in huge disagreements with some of the SN fans here, once we meet in person we usually have a great time!

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

I'm comparing her not moving around and not smiling as much to her solo shows, where she does much more of that (as she should - she's the only singer on stage).

ah makes sense, and i definitely don't have any solo frame of reference, as you know. her solo shows may be shorter than Mac shows too making it easier to keep the energy up? from everything i read it seems pretty clear that she enjoys solo shows much better than Mac shows, whatever the reason might be.

during Mac shows one of the band members always takes her by the hand and escorts her when they are entering or existing the stage (usually in the dark) - either Lindsey, or Christine, or Mick, at various points of the show. i just assumed that's because of her shoes and the worry about her tripping over all the wires lying on the stage floor.

[jbrownsjr]

When I saw the 3 shows in LA. Stevie had amazing stage energy and look liked she was having a blast. I give her a lot of credit for being on pitch most of the night, too. She has shortened her range, but her energy was amazing.

I was very impressed. Christine was very pitchy the first night. I actually rolled my eyes at the Queen.. but she was so much better night 2 and 3. I guess 16 years does take away from that muscle.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

When I saw the 3 shows in LA. Stevie had amazing stage energy and look liked she was having a blast. I give her a lot of credit for being on pitch most of the night, too. She has shortened her range, but her energy was amazing.

I was very impressed. Christine was very pitchy the first night. I actually rolled my eyes at the Queen.. but she was so much better night 2 and 3. I guess 16 years does take away from that muscle.

sounds like the Today Show performance. Stevie was really strong and on pitch, while unfortunately Christine was not which was too bad considering the exposure they were getting performing on the show.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by elle

sounds like the Today Show performance. Stevie was really strong and on pitch, while unfortunately Christine was not which was too bad considering the exposure they were getting performing on the show.

That was a disaster. They were all off... Outdoors in the cold is rough.. especially if you can't hear yourself.. which I heard was the case..

[elle]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

That was a disaster. They were all off... Outdoors in the cold is rough.. especially if you can't hear yourself.. which I heard was the case..

it was not that cold. Stevie and Lindsey were not off, if i remember correctly. they certainly sounded really strong if you were right there.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by elle

it was not that cold. Stevie and Lindsey were not off, if i remember correctly. they certainly sounded really strong if you were right there.

I remember it being really cold... maybe we are talking about different shows? outdoor.. first thing in the morning... cold fog coming out when they spoke.. scarfs...

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by elle

it was not that cold. Stevie and Lindsey were not off, if i remember correctly. they certainly sounded really strong if you were right there.

And don't argue with me Elle.. or I'll have you banned into the Stevie forum... lol!! You'll never make it out alive.

they walk like black widows over there.. maybe even quieter than black widows..

[elle]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I remember it being really cold... maybe we are talking about different shows? outdoor.. first thing in the morning... cold fog coming out when they spoke.. scarfs...

you are thinking SYW tour. in 2014, it was this time of the year, Oct 9 i believe. i was there, all night in line waiting, i would know if it was freezing or foggy . all night spending on the street was a little cold for fans waiting, sure. and it was still dark out when the band came out for soundcheck, but not nearly as cold as in the middle of the night. by the time they were recording the show it was daylight and pretty normal weather for that time of the year in NYC.

i have videos of soundcheck on my youtube channel btw.

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

And don't argue with me Elle.. or I'll have you banned into the Stevie forum... lol!! You'll never make it out alive.

they walk like black widows over there.. maybe even quieter than black widows..

you know well i love arguing with you!

[elle]

Originally Posted by elle

Adding the original Christine quote from RS interview talking about the album and the tour, for some ccntext -

RS: What is the future of the band at this point?
CM: Well, we cut seven songs in the studio already for the start of a brand-new studio album. Which we did probably nearer two years ago. We shelved that temporarily and then went on the road and did the tour. And now, actually, I think we're going back in in October to try to finish it off. Stevie hasn't participated yet, but hope springs eternal. She's going on a solo tour at the moment. But Lindsey and I, we have plenty of songs. There are tons more in the bag that we have yet to record. And they're fantastic. So we're going to carry on and try to finish the record. And then maybe if Stevie doesn't want to be part of that then we can go out and just do some smaller concerts.
RS: You would consider doing some shows with just you, Lindsey, Mick and John [McVie]?
CM: As a four-piece, yeah. With a view of doing a huge world tour after that, with Stevie.
RS: And would you expect that we'll see this new album in 2017?
CM: One would hope so, yeah. That's the plan. And I can't wait for it to be finished. It'll be great. And then we'll hopefully do this world tour with Stevie. And after that, who knows? But we're all still alive, how about that? So that's a start.

to put us back on track - Christine quotes above gave us the hope that we will actually see a release of FM new music, and possibly even a small venue tour to showcase that new music.

as some here have already noted, this seems to be a win-win for all various band members and all various fans (and yet inexplicably there are some fans who keep trying to drag this joy down into the mud! ):

• FM members who are eager to release new music get to do that and showcase it live
• SN gets to have her solo time
• they all get together at the end of 2017 for one final FM tour
• SN fans get new solo tour they crave, and i think i've seen all over fb some new re-releases they've been craving too, so they must be ecstatic
• FM fans, and especially CM and LB fans, get new cohesive album we've been waiting for
• FM fans, and especially CM and LB fans, get to see them live in intimate venues performing new songs
• FM 5 fans get to see all 5 one last time at the massive world tour

if all this materializes it would be pretty spectacular!

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I remember it being really cold... maybe we are talking about different shows? outdoor.. first thing in the morning... cold fog coming out when they spoke.. scarfs...

It was a cold autumn day, quite drizzly. You remember this correctly.

Christine was most notably out of pitch, but all three of them sounded bad. The only song from that micro-set that sounded good was The Chain.