Stevie really needs to rethink not participating in the new Fleetwood Mac album - Page 2

**jbrownsjr** · #16 09-28-2016, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Cool.

I would totally go see Fleetwood Mac without Stevie.
This is dating me, but I remember when Duran Duran broke off into Arcadia and Power Station. Both records were amazing and different. This could be definitely along those lines.

I loved Duran Duran.. I haven't heard the new album. I think I'm going to listen to that today.

Lee · #17 09-28-2016, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Cool.

I would totally go see Fleetwood Mac without Stevie.
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Not me... it just wouldn't be as interesting to me.

Lee

Nick · #18 09-28-2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Cool.

I would totally go see Fleetwood Mac without Stevie.
This is dating me, but I remember when Duran Duran broke off into Arcadia and Power Station. Both records were amazing and different. This could be definitely along those lines.

I was more partial to Arcadia because Simon was singing. Great stuff though.

olive · #19 09-28-2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee

Not me... it just wouldn't be as interesting to me.

Lee

Oh I would no one crying during Landslide or Worse signing it along to her singing

HomerMcvie · #20 09-28-2016, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I loved Duran Duran.. I haven't heard the new album. I think I'm going to listen to that today.

I saw them in Nashville in July. It was a good show(the light show was FANTASTIC). But, at the end of the day, I realized that I really only knew the hits, and wished I'd saved my money.

I guess that's the definition of "casual fan"...

**jbrownsjr** · #21 09-28-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I saw them in Nashville in July. It was a good show(the light show was FANTASTIC). But, at the end of the day, I realized that I really only knew the hits, and wished I'd saved my money.

I guess that's the definition of "casual fan"...

They can really play their instruments..

HomerMcvie · #22 09-28-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

They can really play their instruments..

So the jingles on the tambourines weren't taped down, like someone we know?

elle · #23 09-28-2016, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

All it's going to prove is that creatively they don't need her and turn a lot of fans against her.

A. Behind the Mask proved that the band needed Lindsey.
B. Say You Will was definitely missing Christine but it was better than Behind the Mask.
C. The new album will be even better and it will be without Stevie and that will make it obvious that she is the weak link in Fleetwood Mac. Frankly, Christine McVie songs are the best examples of the Fleetwood Mac sound, not Stevie. Lindsey and Christine can still create magic. Maybe she knows she can't compete with what Lindsey and Christine did artistically.

Further proof - Tango in the Night. It's Fleetwood Mac's 2nd biggest selling album around the world. It sold 11 million copies. and only 3 million were inside the states. The weakest charting single, Seven Wonders, coming from Nicks. What did she really offer on that album - a great vocal on Seven Wonders, and a nice vocal on Little Lies. That's it. She didn't really participate in the album they had been working on for years.

As far as sales go and the tour, she won't make a difference if the music is good, which it will be. It will not sale a lot anyway. Tom Petty just had a number one album and it's still not Gold. Pathetic. They don't need the money, so small venues aren't going to matter that much to anyone but Mick, who is a money-grubbing whore. The album is for artistic purposes.

I want Stevie to make 24K Gold part 2, but I think if she were smart, she better participate in a big way with the new album. Not participating will only hurt her legacy. We all know that Lindsey and Christine have already created a masterpiece and Stevie is just going to make herself look bad. Even though it only may hurt the album, Stevie needs to be part of a masterpiece.

thank you - you so eloquently make great points for why they need to release this album without her!

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Originally Posted by shackin'up

If it hurts the album, which it will, because she's not in it with her soul, I would seriously say to her: back off, we are making something beautiful here. Don't come ruin it.

exactly.

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic

At 68 years old, her legacy will be fine. She needs to do what she wants at this point. Not worry about what some fickle fans would think of her. I mean, I don't think there were tons of fans hating on Lindsey and Christine when they left. Disappointed at best. Did it ruin their legacy? No.

Jamie

thank you for the voice of reason! that whole other thread about how FM album without Stevie would be just LB solo is a great example of fickle fans trying to muddy the clear points Jondalar expressed here!

basically -

if FM cares about their artistic legacy, they'll release 4/5 album and tour it.
if they care more about Stevie's individual legacy than collective FM legacy, they'll wait for her, cobble on a few of her songs like they did for Tango, and run in the ground points from SYW and EP that FM is not anymore a whole but just sum of individual parts. their overall artistic legacy will be cemented with yet another non-cohesive stitched together album.

**jbrownsjr** · #24 09-28-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

So the jingles on the tambourines weren't taped down, like someone we know?

In Ken's book he states that they usually had Stevie's mic turned down for the tamborine.

aleuzzi · #25 09-28-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

My brother would dress up like them. I was older so I thought it was "uncool"

Don't pretend you didn't dress those dolls up, too.

**jbrownsjr** · #26 09-28-2016, 10:52 AM

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Don't pretend you didn't dress those dolls up, too.

I didn't.. I was the cool kid who loved Christine McVie!! lol

HomerMcvie · #27 09-28-2016, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

In Ken's book he states that they usually had Stevie's mic turned down for the tamborine.

I just remember reading(a million years ago) that her jingles were taped down.

And I've enjoyed that thought for a million years...

**jbrownsjr** · #28 09-28-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I just remember reading(a million years ago) that her jingles were taped down.

And I've enjoyed that thought for a million years...

He just said they couldn't use them because they weren't in time.

jkmaletic · #29 09-28-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I just remember reading(a million years ago) that her jingles were taped down.

And I've enjoyed that thought for a million years...

For what it's worth, I'm not so sure that they are still taped down now. When I'm up front it seems I can hear her tambourine as she's using it. Perhaps she took a tambourine class at a local community college.

HomerMcvie · #30 09-28-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic

For what it's worth, I'm not so sure that they are still taped down now. When I'm up front it seems I can hear her tambourine as she's using it. Perhaps she took a tambourine class at a local community college.

This is apparently a real thing... Good work, Stevie!