Stevie still not on board for new album.

[elle]

Originally Posted by FM77

I would be shocked if this tour goes beyond the scheduled end date of 6/30.

so why did SN say she's busy with FM for the whole 2015? is it her usual confusion about the meaning of numbers, or did she finally agree to go into studio with them and work on getting that album out the second half of 2015?

[tabruns]

Originally Posted by elle

so why did SN say she's busy with FM for the whole 2015? is it her usual confusion about the meaning of numbers, or did she finally agree to go into studio with them and work on getting that album out the second half of 2015?

I think the "with Fleetwood Mac through the rest of the year" definitely means joining them for the album. Plus McVie said recently that they plan to have the album out prior to starting a Mac tour in Europe, which she thought would be starting 2016.

[elle]

Originally Posted by tabruns

I think the "with Fleetwood Mac through the rest of the year" definitely means joining them for the album. Plus McVie said recently that they plan to have the album out prior to starting a Mac tour in Europe, which she thought would be starting 2016.

nope, Christine said that UK/Europe tour would start in May 2015, and they were hoping to have the album out before that. obviously the album part is not happening in that timeframe, considering they have only 3 week Christmas break, and Stevie hasn't contributed so far.

i do hope you are right about the album and Stevie finally deciding to join in, but i suspect they'll just be finishing the world tour through the end of 2015. if SN adds her contributions to that FM album, maybe it could be during the summer break that they usually seem to take from touring... that is if we take the FM timeframe from things that both LB and SN said about possibly going back to their respective solo stuff in 2016.

don't know whether that's been reported here, but Mick said at DC m&g that they might just put that album out as LB solo album. of course, considering Say You Will didn't come out as LB solo album and had just 4 out of Rumours 5 members, why would this next one with 4 out of 5 Rumours era FM members be LB solo album is completely beyond any logic and reason.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by elle

don't know whether that's been reported here, but Mick said at DC m&g that they might just put that album out as LB solo album. of course, considering Say You Will didn't come out as LB solo album and had just 4 out of Rumours 5 members, why would this next one with 4 out of 5 Rumours era FM members be LB solo album is completely beyond any logic and reason.

Well you're right it doesn't make sense to put it out as a LB solo album because it involves Christine. But I can see why they couldn't put out a FM album without Stevie. The difference between SYW and the situation now is that Christine had quit. She was not part of the band. Stevie is part of the band so that complicates things. They do all have a personal and working relationship with her and I don't think they wish to throw that away so they aren't going to kick her out or use her as a touring only member. And if they did go to that length to put this music out it would amazing that Stevie was let them do it and not feel any guilt about holding back the band.

[elle]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Well you're right it doesn't make sense to put it out as a LB solo album because it involves Christine. But I can see why they couldn't put out a FM album without Stevie. The difference between SYW and the situation now is that Christine had quit. She was not part of the band. Stevie is part of the band so that complicates things. They do all have a personal and working relationship with her and I don't think they wish to throw that away so they aren't going to kick her out or use her as a touring only member. And if they did go to that length to put this music out it would amazing that Stevie was let them do it and not feel any guilt about holding back the band.

good points.... relationship that keeps stunting them i guess can only go for so long. if she keeps non-cooperating, maybe they will fire her?

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by elle

good points.... relationship that keeps stunting them i guess can only go for so long. if she keeps non-cooperating, maybe they will fire her?

and go from playing sold out or nearly sold out 18,000 seat venues at 750 bucks a seat to playing 3,000 to 5,000 seaters at a fraction of that price. Not as long as Mick is running things.

[elle]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

and go from playing sold out or nearly sold out 18,000 seat venues at 750 bucks a seat to playing 3,000 to 5,000 seaters at a fraction of that price. Not as long as Mick is running things.

maybe Richard is right that this is their last tour, and they are definitely making gazillions, so commercial part will not be important anymore?

Beach Boys did just one tour with the whole old lineup back, and then they all fractured back to their merry ways.... it is conceivable band like FM can do that too.

obviously, SN has been stalling any artistic aspirations these people still seem to have and are eager to pursue together as a band. so it's weighing commercial vs artistic and what is more important to FM as a band.

but you are right re Mick, other 3 would be fine i'm sure, but Mick seems to always live way beyond his means.

[SteveMacD]

With all of the touring they're doing, I can't imagine it would take more than a month to finish the album. They'll have optimum chops by the time they get back in the studio. All they need from Stevie is 3-4 songs.

[secondhandchain]

Why, why, why does she not mention recording. Doesn't make sense...or does it?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by secondhandchain

Why, why, why does she not mention recording. Doesn't make sense...or does it?

Well, she's using what little time she has with the press to promote the album she's not touring behind. Remember, 24KG completed her obligation to Warner Bros, and I'd be willing to bet there's a little politicking going on. No need to unnecessarily alienate the label, especially since the band might want to re-sign with them.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Remember, 24KG completed her obligation to Warner Bros, and I'd be willing to bet there's a little politicking going on. No need to unnecessarily alienate the label, especially since the band might want to re-sign with them.

I don't remember, actually. Where was this mentioned? I must've missed it.

[SteveMacD]

The recent Access Hollywood interview.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by elle

nope, Christine said that UK/Europe tour would start in May 2015, and they were hoping to have the album out before that. obviously the album part is not happening in that timeframe, considering they have only 3 week Christmas break, and Stevie hasn't contributed so far.

i do hope you are right about the album and Stevie finally deciding to join in, but i suspect they'll just be finishing the world tour through the end of 2015. if SN adds her contributions to that FM album, maybe it could be during the summer break that they usually seem to take from touring... that is if we take the FM timeframe from things that both LB and SN said about possibly going back to their respective solo stuff in 2016.

don't know whether that's been reported here, but Mick said at DC m&g that they might just put that album out as LB solo album. of course, considering Say You Will didn't come out as LB solo album and had just 4 out of Rumours 5 members, why would this next one with 4 out of 5 Rumours era FM members be LB solo album is completely beyond any logic and reason.

Just put it out as a Lindsey and Christine album, featuring John and Mick. Sorry, Stevie.

It would seem if it were to be released as an LB solo album it would not contain Christine-penned songs (unless everything they did is a cowrite-- but all interviews said she wrote plenty of her own stuff and sent him demos to work on-- that would make him arranger/producer but her the writer) which is a shame-- her material should see the light of day and whatever format they appear in should have her name attached and not be buried on an LB album under his name (FM presumes all of the writers and doesn't highlight any writer's name on the cover so that's fair). Again I don't mean her actual co-writes with LB (if she's ok with being a featured player on a Lindsey headlined album for their cowritten stuff, so be it) but rather her own stuff she brought in for FM.

It sounds in any case like they don't want to wait on Stevie to tack her sh*t on and drag this all out forever. I love that they are considering putting out a de facto FM album without her. Calling it a LB album or a Travelling Dingleberries album or whatever avoids the legal sh*tstorm of putting out an official FM album w/out her while actually putting out an FM album w/out her. I say bravo to them!

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Just put it out as a Lindsey and Christine album, featuring John and Mick. Sorry, Stevie.

It would seem if it were to be released as an LB solo album it would not contain Christine-penned songs (unless everything they did is a cowrite-- but all interviews said she wrote plenty of her own stuff and sent him demos to work on-- that would make him arranger/producer but her the writer) which is a shame-- her material should see the light of day and whatever format they appear in should have her name attached and not be buried on an LB album under his name (FM presumes all of the writers and doesn't highlight any writer's name on the cover so that's fair). Again I don't mean her actual co-writes with LB (if she's ok with being a featured player on a Lindsey headlined album for their cowritten stuff, so be it) but rather her own stuff she brought in for FM.

It sounds in any case like they don't want to wait on Stevie to tack her sh*t on and drag this all out forever. I love that they are considering putting out a de facto FM album without her. Calling it a LB album or a Travelling Dingleberries album or whatever avoids the legal sh*tstorm of putting out an official FM album w/out her while actually putting out an FM album w/out her. I say bravo to them!

An album like that would sell like 20K tops.

[welcomechris]

Originally Posted by elle

good points.... relationship that keeps stunting them i guess can only go for so long. if she keeps non-cooperating, maybe they will fire her?

haha no. the end of stevie is the end of fleetwood mac.