Red Rocks - Page 2

Mystical88 · #16 09-02-2003, 10:47 PM

[I]Red Rocks was and is a great show! I was there and remember it well. She was a little crazy for that show I had noticed at that time. But, she was filming and was really making the best of it. She really slowed down after that tour.
The close ups on Red Rocks are different . I noticed that when it first came out. That is when her style to me started getting slower. She wasn't as lively. Which makes sense those last 6 months were the end of her drug days.
Also, if you watch the Tango in The Night Video she has re-dubs too. Along with re-dubing the vocals.

Right on for Stevie for making it through that!

gldstwmn · #17 09-02-2003, 10:53 PM

Were you there for The Mask Tour as well?

Mystical88 · #18 09-02-2003, 10:56 PM

I wasn't there for the filming of BTM tour. Tango in the Night video. I saw the tour though.

gldstwmn · #19 09-02-2003, 11:02 PM

TITN was filmed at the Cow Palace right?

Pagan_RussZsa · #20 09-03-2003, 04:33 AM

SO,

Where could I get a bootleg version of Red Rocks from then, thats if there is such a version.

I thought "Outside the Rain" was fantastic, that melody when shes sings "outside the rain and the heart skips a beat" is truly beautiful.

The Dove part is hilarious, tho' she was obviously confused as even her backing singers were ushering her off the stage!

Bless.

Russ

Mystical? Where abouts were u? near the front?

Mystical88 · #21 09-03-2003, 09:27 AM

I would be interested in looking at that too. Wonder how close.....

#22 09-03-2003, 10:03 AM

i don't think it's a video that's floating around...i think it's an audience audio recording.

stevierocks87 · #23 09-03-2003, 01:09 PM

I was wondering how much of the Red Rocks video is overdubs. Is anything that we hear on that from the acual concert? On some songs its really noticable when they show a shot from the acual concert and she's not singing, but she is on the audio, but then again some things it seems like she would not be able to recreate

adam

strandinthewind · #24 09-03-2003, 01:23 PM

I do not know about the overdubs on this concert. But for a good example of a bad overdub, look at the Bella Donna VHS during the Edge if 17. A few times in this song, her lips are not in time with the words and to my ears, the vocal sounds like the vocal from the LP. Having said that, I have no problem with vocal overdubs a/k/a "looping"

Pagan_RussZsa · #25 09-03-2003, 02:45 PM

That is a shame, about Red Rocks I mean.

I knew that it was the last venue in her Rock a lil tour, but I never realised that she truly was suffering like she was. Someone mentioned that her voice was cracking and she was forgetting lyrics left, right and centre. I am sure the concert live was v good, but that is a little worrying.

Maybe it's a good job that I havent seen the 'raw', or 'real' version, as I would not like to see her in that sort of state. I am not criticising her, nor am I attempting to talk bad about her, though for the security of my high opinions of her I'd rather not dwell on her flaws during that era.

Let's take into account however, how she performs now. The last 6 years have been truly more inspiring than the first 5 years of her solo career. Stevie herself in an interview following the release of TISL stated that she herself held her TISL album in higher esteem than Bella Donna and The Wild Heart.

Cheers Stevie. I love you!

dissention · #26 09-03-2003, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by stevierocks87
I was wondering how much of the Red Rocks video is overdubs. Is anything that we hear on that from the acual concert? On some songs its really noticable when they show a shot from the acual concert and she's not singing, but she is on the audio, but then again some things it seems like she would not be able to recreate

adam

A good 75% of it is overdubs. The other 25% is post-production to fix the *awful* vocals. During Edge, she forgot the lyrics and there was a loooooooong pause, the music kept going but she didn't.

Much of Stand Back was overdubbed because the vocal was unusable; it was really horrendous. She screamed throughout the song. Outside the Rain has the beginning overdubbed, but the last minute is almost like it was in the video. Also, there were quite a few mistaked made by the band that were fixed. The solos before Edge were longer by about 2-3 minutes. Also, they performed more songs: I Can't Wait, Leather and Lace, Stop Draggin'. Leather and Lace is unlistenable, as is I Can't Wait.

My advice would be to contact a trader. However, only trade for it if they have the new upgrade that's floating around. The old boot is two discs and was unlistenable, *AWFUL* quality, you couldn't even hear the vocals. The new one is on one disc and almost all of the hiss has been eliminated and is a solid B+ in quality. I know that someone named Jim is the one who fixed the boot up and, if Jim's out there, I just want to say you did a FABULOUS job!!!

TwoTricky · #27 09-03-2003, 03:08 PM

I remember seeing it when it first came out (again...on cable TV) and I thought WHOA...what a difference...!!!

The first concert special (White Winged Dove Tour) was solid...Stevie looked and sounded great...The Red Rocks video was a train wreck in comparison...while at first I thought she was just being 'edgy' only later did I realize she was 'coked up' out of her mind.

Still and all, It had classic moments....with the dove and Mick being there (and wasn't Peter Frampton there too....and WHY?)...and I loved the 'outro' to Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You...

"And sometimes they ask her about the men in her life..
And she says...as difficult as it has been...they are poets..
And yet they are priests of nothing....but they are legends...
And I thought that there was a connection..."
(insert flying doves here)

gldstwmn · #28 09-03-2003, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by TwoTricky
(and wasn't Peter Frampton there too....and WHY?)...

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Peter Frampton was the opening act. He was on a "comeback tour."

Mystical88 · #29 09-03-2003, 05:48 PM

I would have to disagree. Stevie was doing coke on this tape. But not near as much partying as she has done prevously! Look at SNL in the 80's. She was trashed. And I don't mean on drinking. And many other recording and concerts.
This just happened to be one that she told the public that she was doing the coke. As she stated Quote" I only did as little as I possible could for that" .
I would have to say does it really matter if she was high or not? She isn't now. And she is doing good.