How Christine has re-energized the band...

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by nicepace

Which raises the question ... how much are they using "canned" backing tracks ... and also, how much of what we are hearing is coming from the extra musicians? For example, I hear what sounds like a horn section on the audio of "Tusk." What's making that sound? Is that a "track," or is it being created by the extra keyboard guy in the shadows? How about all those extra layers of vocals in most of the songs? Are those all the backing singers, or are some of those pre-recorded?

On another thread, someone commented that it didn't even look like Lindsey is actually playing guitar, because one could hear guitar notes when his hands were obviously not touching the strings. (I think this was during a piece of "I'm So Afraid.")

I realize the days of seeing just the five of them on stage, no extra musicians, no "embellishments," are long in the past, but I want to at least know where the extra sounds are coming from.

The pre recorded / programed tracks are all part of Mick's ever evolving plan...Sometime in the not to distant future ( technology willing ) he will replace the entire band with hologram's so he can continue to collect touring revenue from the retirement home...As an added bonus Mick with a single mouse click will be able to replace any band member with another from any given era...Example...With one click during "Gold Dust Woman" Mick will be able to replace Lindsey with Peter Green...The show will be billed as "Mick's Fleetwood Mac Experience"

[wheart]

Originally Posted by bethelblues

Honey Hi is such a catchy little song. It's so charming to listen to.

I'd add Crystal and Oh Daddy to your list. The acoustic Gypsy was such a success. I don't think they realize how much people enjoyed that and still listen to it. An acoustic set would be such a good idea...Tina Turner used to do it and would sit right in front with a guitar player on both sides. She had a blast doing it.


Two other things:

Always thought Lindsey should do a short medley of his Tusk songs, since there's many he's never done or hasn't done for a while. What about: What Makes You Think You're the One/Walk a Thin Line/The Ledge?

And I said this before, but Over My Head should be earlier in the set. No problem with it at all, just that toward the end it takes some momentum away. I would've suggested it as maybe the fifth song and presented the show as a musical journey, beginning with that very first hit single in 1975.

I think Crystal and Oh Daddy would work great acoustically.

Lindsey would blow the audience away with a Tusk set. While I love Chris and Stevie's contributions to Tusk, Lindsey's songs, I feel are some of his strongest.

[bethelblues]

Yeah, even just a medley so he could bring back a few songs together. It'd be fun and allow them to feature more songs than just I Know I'm Not Wrong and Not That Funny---I really don't understand why he only sticks to the same non-hits from Tusk.

[ViscountViktor]

What about That's All For Everyone?

Love that song...

It could replace Big Love as the solo guitar song.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by nicole21290

Also...

About Dennis Wilson, Lindsey said in 1992: "I knew him pretty well. He even had an affair with my girlfriend! But he was a good guy. He was kind of lost, but I thought he had a big heart. I always liked him. He was crazy just like a lot of other people, but he had a really big heart, and he was the closest thing to Brian there was, too. He was halfway there."

that would be Carol. She always has denied it, but Lindsey seems to think otherwise.

[jwd]

It's always been about the sum being greater than the parts for this band. We know it, they know it. Take any one of them out and it's not the same. Having Chris back makes the most popular configuration of the band complete once more. Her songs, the three part harmonies, her presence on stage, and in the studio has brought a lot of the hope back for this band, and quite frankly, the fans as well.

I hardly doubt Chris came back to grab some quick cash. She didn't need the money, especially to overcome her fear of flying and all the fears of the unknown rejoining the band. I believe it's more about personal fulfillment and doing what she wants to do, with the people she wants to do it with. Writing songs and playing music. She's an artist who realized she has more to give, and that doesn't just include gardening, cooking, and looking after her dogs. Chris struggled many years with FM and on personal levels before she was launched into superstardom with Stevie and Lindsey. It wasn't about the money then or she would have quit a long time ago. She loves what she does, plain and simple. Sure money helps, but it is not everything.

Band or business, I hope they continue to be successful, cause I like what they are selling! Who doesn't want them tour this year WITH Chris?! The answer is quite apparent by their tour numbers. We all want to take another ride with this band and enjoy it for as long as we can.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

The pre recorded / programed tracks are all part of Mick's ever evolving plan...Sometime in the not to distant future ( technology willing ) he will replace the entire band with hologram's so he can continue to collect touring revenue from the retirement home...As an added bonus Mick with a single mouse click will be able to replace any band member with another from any given era...Example...With one click during "Gold Dust Woman" Mick will be able to replace Lindsey with Peter Green...The show will be billed as "Mick's Fleetwood Mac Experience"

Hilarious, what a concept!!

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Totally agree with you - Christine was quoted as being worth over £25 million ($40 million) even before The Dance was released and with royalties still totting up she must be very comfortable financially to say the least. With no kids and seemingly no entourage like Stevie I think she's the least likely of the five to need the money. It's a factor yes, but not the be all and end all.

Am so, so happy to see how well she's being received, she has slotted back into the band seamlessly. She looks and sounds wonderful too. It's a dream come true for us all

I wouldn't say she has no entourage… she might not have the gaggle of hangers-on that Stevie has, but she for certain has people on her payroll. Even just domestic staff… she's got to have a couple of people at least who look after her house in England, her dogs, she's got a manager, accountant(s), lawyers, all those people who keep track of her money and her investments and her home…at the very least. I'm sure she has an assistant as well, just one not as much a caretaker as Karen (who oddly reminds me at times of Kathy Bates in Misery LOLOL ) EVERYONE and their brother has an assistant.
And who knows who else. But I agree, Chris doesn't seem to have a bunch of people whom she carries financially for life and who do who knows what (Glen Parish…). Just saying, she's rich. Rich people have staff, if not exactly entourage.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I'm sure she has an assistant as well, just one not as much a caretaker as Karen (who oddly reminds me at times of Kathy Bates in Misery LOLOL ) EVERYONE and their brother has an assistant.

except Lindsey.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by elle

except Lindsey.

are we sure about that? He seems like the type to never talk about it, nor drag that person around everywhere he goes. But unless his wife is doing it, I would think he's got someone keeping track of his daily schedule and appointments and packing and sh*t. Even Chris said she was going to get someone to do the constant packing/unpacking for her this time coz it was one of the things she totally hated on tour. Then again, if you only have one bag with two teeshirts and pairs of jeans….but no, you still need someone to get your stuff cleaned. You can only pack so many pairs of knickers...

[nicepace]

The pre recorded / programed tracks are all part of Mick's ever evolving plan...Sometime in the not to distant future ( technology willing ) he will replace the entire band with hologram's so he can continue to collect touring revenue from the retirement home

Cute answer, but not particularly helpful. When I see a band in a small venue (I haven't been to an arena show by anybody in years), I am confident that all the sounds I hear are being made by the musicians on stage. Since this is apparently not the case with Fleetwood Mac, it seems perfectly valid to wonder which sounds are coming from where. This is especially true when some sounds are being created by backing musicians, and others come from pre-recorded tracks.

[Frankenstein]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

'm sure she has an assistant as well, just one not as much a caretaker as Karen (who oddly reminds me at times of Kathy Bates in Misery LOLOL )

This made my day.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

are we sure about that? He seems like the type to never talk about it, nor drag that person around everywhere he goes. But unless his wife is doing it, I would think he's got someone keeping track of his daily schedule and appointments and packing and sh*t. Even Chris said she was going to get someone to do the constant packing/unpacking for her this time coz it was one of the things she totally hated on tour. Then again, if you only have one bag with two teeshirts and pairs of jeans….but no, you still need someone to get your stuff cleaned. You can only pack so many pairs of knickers...

well, during OMS tour for a while he didn't even have a tour manager on the road, it was just him, his guitar tech, and his sound guy. then as the tour went on and he added m&gs he also added a tour manager back, and i know that guy was tracking where they go, what appointments, and such.

he definitely has somebody taking care of the general logistics but that's different than personal assistant. either John or Mick also confirmed last year that Lindsey is the only one without personal assistant. also in the last year's tour book everybody's personal assistants were listed except Lindsey's. so yeah, pretty sure.

[HomerMcvie]

In their defense, nearly EVERY new artist does it now. The public expects perfection these days, and the only way to give it to them, is to have all the backing vocals on the choruses, and all the minute background string parts, present in the mix. There's a click track added, that usually only the drummer gets...

They have had added "hidden" stuff, since way before tracks. Back on the Tango tour, before the house lights went down, I was walking back from peeing, and when I craned my neck just right, I could see a MASSIVE keyboard setup, off stage, behind a curtain. I was standing on my tippy toes, taking in all I could, when a security DOLT yelled at me, and told me to stop looking. But one thing's for certain, Chris wasn't playing them!!!! Wasn't his name Jeff Sova? (spelling...I don't remember now)

Originally Posted by nicepace

Which raises the question ... how much are they using "canned" backing tracks ... and also, how much of what we are hearing is coming from the extra musicians? For example, I hear what sounds like a horn section on the audio of "Tusk." What's making that sound? Is that a "track," or is it being created by the extra keyboard guy in the shadows? How about all those extra layers of vocals in most of the songs? Are those all the backing singers, or are some of those pre-recorded?

On another thread, someone commented that it didn't even look like Lindsey is actually playing guitar, because one could hear guitar notes when his hands were obviously not touching the strings. (I think this was during a piece of "I'm So Afraid.")

I realize the days of seeing just the five of them on stage, no extra musicians, no "embellishments," are long in the past, but I want to at least know where the extra sounds are coming from.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by elle

well, during OMS tour for a while he didn't even have a tour manager on the road, it was just him, his guitar tech, and his sound guy. then as the tour went on and he added m&gs he also added a tour manager back, and i know that guy was tracking where they go, what appointments, and such.

he definitely has somebody taking care of the general logistics but that's different than personal assistant. either John or Mick also confirmed last year that Lindsey is the only one without personal assistant. also in the last year's tour book everybody's personal assistants were listed except Lindsey's. so yeah, pretty sure.

always the rebel, that Mister Buckingham.

Makes sense in a way though. He's always been a bit of a loner, very self-contained.