The Vault CD

BLY · #1 09-07-2014, 06:57 PM

It would have been kind of cool if the new CD could have used her vocals from the early demos and just recorded the music. I was just listening to some of those early demos and was once again reminded why I got into that voice so many years ago. I do like how her voice has matured/ changed ( whatever) over the years but OMG! Those Rumours releases of her duetting on NGBA and the Oh Daddy outtake makes me go into my own " Vault" which I do have of these early years. I think it could have worked considering she's not going to tour to support this release. I'm still excited about this release but.........

PenguinHead · #2 09-07-2014, 07:34 PM

It's still a prospect that she will eventually tour solo for the album. It's just that Christine popped back into Fleetwood Mac and a tour was booked. No one saw that coming! Though Stevie had other plans in progress, she's been a good sport for agreeing to go on tour with them. Ultimately, I think the cross promotion between the upcoming release of her album and the upcoming band tour will be mutually beneficial.

Yes, Stevie's voice had quite the range when she was thirty years younger. We have the demos to listen to and enjoy. She still has a distinct seasoned and powerful voice now that compensates for the loss of range. I'm happy she recorded the songs with her current voice--a more genuine approach.

MarkMc1990 · #3 09-08-2014, 12:14 AM

I always thought it would be a very cool idea if Stevie did a "duet" with an old demo, but as others have pointed out to me, she probably doesn't want to highlight how much her voice has changed.

Nickingham · #4 09-08-2014, 08:56 AM

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I always thought it would be a very cool idea if Stevie did a "duet" with an old demo, but as others have pointed out to me, she probably doesn't want to highlight how much her voice has changed.

That is an awesome idea!

Or a younger Stevie starts out in the song, then they both harmonize in the middle and it ends with older Stevie singing the rest. It would be like coming full circle.
Has any other artist done that before? I don't remember. If not, then Stevie could be the first (or the first female artist) to do it.

markolas · #5 09-08-2014, 10:51 AM

I think these are all dreadful ideas.

editme2 · #6 09-08-2014, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkMc1990

I always thought it would be a very cool idea if Stevie did a "duet" with an old demo, but as others have pointed out to me, she probably doesn't want to highlight how much her voice has changed.

In Stevie's mind, her voice hasn't changed....:-)

Feather Blade · #7 09-08-2014, 12:51 PM

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That is an awesome idea!

Or a younger Stevie starts out in the song, then they both harmonize in the middle and it ends with older Stevie singing the rest. It would be like coming full circle.
Has any other artist done that before? I don't remember. If not, then Stevie could be the first (or the first female artist) to do it.

I think that is an intriguing idea too. Unfortunately though, artists these days don't seem to be interested in recording things that can't be easily duplicated on stage. I suppose because of the oft repeated idiom about the money being in touring...

PenguinHead · #8 09-08-2014, 01:21 PM

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I think these are all dreadful ideas.

I'm with you on that!

PenguinHead · #9 09-08-2014, 01:54 PM

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Unfortunately though, artists these days don't seem to be interested in recording things that can't be easily duplicated on stage. .

I'm curious to know which artists you're thinking of?

I don't know of any arbitrary rule that artists are beholden to exactly replicating their studio recordings on stage, otherwise they can't be performed. Big Love, anyone? In the Rumours era 1975-1982 Fleetwood Mac they didn't tour with a band of support players - guitarists, keyboard players, synths, percussionists, backup vocalists. Without all of the fussy vocal overdubs and heavily layered instruments, the songs took on a slightly more earthy tone and assertive manner. This was what at a real rock show was all about, flaws and all

As a burgeoning fan in the late seventies, having little knowledge of any live shows, I became fascinated to hear how they reinvented their songs on stage. I began trading cassette bootlegs with fans through snail mail (ancient cave man times). It was exciting to hear how the songs translated live. I never compared them to the studio versions, because they are two separate worlds.

Feather Blade · #10 09-08-2014, 02:19 PM

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I'm curious to know which artists you're thinking of?

Not all artists are beholden to some arbitrary rule that studio recordings are required to be replicated on stage. Big Love, anyone?

In the Rumours era 1975-1982 they didn't tour with a band of support players - guitarists, keyboard players, synths, percussionists, backup vocalists.

Without all of the fussy vocal overdubs and heavily layered instruments, the songs took on a slightly more earthy tone and assertive manner. This was what at a real rock show was all about.

As a burgeoning fan in the late seventies, having little knowledge of any live shows, I was fascinated to know how their songs sounded in live performance. I began trading cassette bootlegs with fans through snail mail (ancient cave man times). It was exciting to hear how the songs translated live I never compared them to the studio versions, because they are two separate worlds.

Interesting that you brought up Big Love. As much as I can appreciate that the one man live arrangement showcases Lindsey's unique talents, I much prefer the studio treatment. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, but I enjoy lush, full compositions over those spare, earthy ones. Give me thirty eight layered harmonies, six guitars, a piano and two keyboards, drums and seven different percussion add ons...I'm being silly, but you get the idea, just beautiful layered pieces that don't always translate well without the "fuss". That isn't to say that I can't also enjoy something like a simple, one person at a piano song. I just think I'll always prefer what you can do in a studio with time and production over what you can do on the fly with a small group on stage. We're all different and that's just my preference.

mitzo · #11 09-08-2014, 08:31 PM

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Interesting that you brought up Big Love. As much as I can appreciate that the one man live arrangement showcases Lindsey's unique talents, I much prefer the studio treatment. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, but I enjoy lush, full compositions over those spare, earthy ones. Give me thirty eight layered harmonies, six guitars, a piano and two keyboards, drums and seven different percussion add ons...I'm being silly, but you get the idea, just beautiful layered pieces that don't always translate well without the "fuss". That isn't to say that I can't also enjoy something like a simple, one person at a piano song. I just think I'll always prefer what you can do in a studio with time and production over what you can do on the fly with a small group on stage. We're all different and that's just my preference.

Fully agreed. The production is a huge part of the art. Layer the vocals, load up the cool sounds from a pile of instruments.

BlueLight · #12 09-08-2014, 10:10 PM

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I'm with you on that!

Ditto! And separately, I've been pleasantly surprised to enjoy many of what we've heard of the new recordings far more than the demos.

Regardless, I wouldn't have minded a bonus CD with mastered versions of the original demos, but beggars can't be choosers!

PenguinHead · #13 09-08-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Feather Blade

Interesting that you brought up Big Love. As much as I can appreciate that the one man live arrangement showcases Lindsey's unique talents, I much prefer the studio treatment. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, but I enjoy lush, full compositions over those spare, earthy ones. Give me thirty eight layered harmonies, six guitars, a piano and two keyboards, drums and seven different percussion add ons...I'm being silly, but you get the idea, just beautiful layered pieces that don't always translate well without the "fuss". That isn't to say that I can't also enjoy something like a simple, one person at a piano song. I just think I'll always prefer what you can do in a studio with time and production over what you can do on the fly with a small group on stage. We're all different and that's just my preference.

I do wish he would drop the acoustic solo version of Big Love on this tour. It would be really cool if they performed it with a the full band, much like the album version. Sharon and Lori would be a Big Help with vocal arrangements.

BlueLight · #14 09-08-2014, 10:37 PM

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I do wish he would drop the acoustic solo version of Big Love on this tour. It would be really cool if they performed it with a the full band, much like the album version. Sharon and Lori would be a Big Help with vocal arrangements.

YES! Perhaps it's time for a TITN set, with Seven Wonder, Everywhere, and Isn't It Midnight as well.