Okay, confess.

[ShamHy89]

Wow, cool thread! Here we go...

1) I love Paper Doll.

2) I like Mirage quite a bit. (I like Only Over You and Book of Love as well)- I prefer it over Tango

3) I can't stand some the songs on Tusk.

4) I don't like Family Man, but it is endurable.

5) I like Mystery To Me better than Rumours.

6) I miss Christine!

7) I don't like 80% of Stevie's solo work.

8) I don't really like Say You Will as an album. There are some good spots though.

9) Gypsy WAS good. It's getting old for me.

10) Sometimes I listen to "Thoughts On A Grey Day" for fun...

[xdreamsunwindx]

Here's mine...

I like Mirage better than Tango

I like Christine the most vocally out of all of them

I think that Mystery to Me and The White album better than Rumours

I CAN NOT stand Running Thru the Garden

I don't like Enchanted (the song)

I am not a Buckingham Nicks romantic

Alot of Lindsey's songs on TUSK make me cringe

I think Lindsey sounded like a girl on the White album's version of ISA

I extremely dislike Never Going Back Again

I looove Wish You Were Here

I also looove Say Goodbye

I think Stevie would be able to hit some of those notes on the tour

I like the original version of Silver Springs ore than the 97 one. The 97 one gets a little boring

I LOVE Sugar Daddy!

SYW is in my oppinion Lindsey's album he was strongest on.

[The Catdancer]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
According to Lindsey, Stevie told him after the book publication that she couldn't believe Mick wrote that. But that's not the same as her saying he wrote something that's untrue.
I find it very odd that Stevie has never spoken of it or been asked about it that we know of.

- Jake

She did talk about it in a British tv interview. She said (and don't shoot me if I have it wrong, it's a been a long time since I've watched it) that when LB announced that he was leaving the band:"I flew off of the couch and seriously attacked him. He would chase me on Christine's driveway and I would chase him screaming horrible obsceneties(sp?) at him. He caught me and I thought he was gonna kill me and he probably thought he was gonna kill me. And I said:"If anything happens to me, my Dad and my brother will find you and they will kill you". It was horrible".

John on the subject:"It got ugly.... physically ugly. And I said:"Lindsey, why don't you just leave?". And he did but what I meant was:"Why don't you just leave the room?" Hahahaha".

I think this was taped in 93 or something. I'd have to look it up.

[dissention]

Originally posted by The Catdancer
She did talk about it in a British tv interview. She said (and don't shoot me if I have it wrong, it's a been a long time since I've watched it) that when LB announced that he was leaving the band:"I flew off of the couch and seriously attacked him. He would chase me on Christine's driveway and I would chase him screaming horrible obsceneties(sp?) at him. He caught me and I thought he was gonna kill me and he probably thought he was gonna kill me. And I said:"If anything happens to me, my Dad and my brother will find you and they will kill you". It was horrible".

John on the subject:"It got ugly.... physically ugly. And I said:"Lindsey, why don't you just leave?". And he did but what I meant was:"Why don't you just leave the room?" Hahahaha".

I think this was taped in 93 or something. I'd have to look it up.

Yup, that was the Rocks Family Tree special on the BBC.

[darklinensuit]

Yeah, I did read that after my original post.
Chris does look fierce, but the idea of Papa Nicks hunting somebody down does stretch the imagination, close as they are.

- Jake

[The Tower]

Okay.......

1) Ever since Tusk, I basically can't stand Christine McVie (especially on Tango in the Night).

2) Tango in the Night is the WORST B/N era FM album ever!! BLLEEEECCCHHH!!!!

3) Mick Fleetwood's live-on-stage drama queen antics really bug me- "World Turning" is always my chance to use the restroom. Crazy eyes and foaming at the mouth I can definitely do without...

4) In general, all of Lindsey's material produced during the 80's is really, really, bad- whereas Out of the Cradle was pure genius, with every track being a keeper.

5) The Say You Will tour is just one, big, long jukebox that never changes. You only need to see it once, cuz it's EXACTLY the same everytime (the blocking, the hand gestures, the "play Lindsey's guitar", the Mick speech at the end, the talking intros to most of the songs, Brent Tuggle doing the "elbow thing" on the piano during "Don't Stop"- and on, and on, and onnnnnnn).

6) I absolutely LOVE "The Second Time".

7) The Other Side of the Mirror is Stevie's best solo album.

8) Behind the Mask is waayyyyyy underrated.

9) I generally skip all of Lindsey's tracks on Say You Will, even though I really like "Miranda", "Say Goodbye", and, especially, "Steal Your Heart Away". Which leads to-

10) "Murrow", "Red Rover" and "Come" are really, really awful...

11) I used to not like "Illume", but I think it rocks now.

12) I'm sick of going to FM live shows and hearing the same old crap. Ditch "Rhiannon", "Dreams", "Go Your Own Way", etc. for some fresh material.

13) I wish that Stevie would sing her songs as written or not sing them at all- i.e. "Rhiannon" and, especially, the Say You Will tour version of "Gypsy". What the hell was that with no high note on the "Enough to loovvvvveeeeeee"??? So glaringly, obviously, missing! I was shocked.

I could go on for hours.......

[dissention]

Originally posted by The Tower
5) The Say You Will tour is just one, big, long jukebox that never changes. You only need to see it once, cuz it's EXACTLY the same everytime (the blocking, the hand gestures, the "play Lindsey's guitar", the Mick speech at the end, the talking intros to most of the songs, Brent Tuggle doing the "elbow thing" on the piano during "Don't Stop"- and on, and on, and onnnnnnn).

6) I absolutely LOVE "The Second Time".

7) The Other Side of the Mirror is Stevie's best solo album.

12) I'm sick of going to FM live shows and hearing the same old crap. Ditch "Rhiannon", "Dreams", "Go Your Own Way", etc. for some fresh material.

I agree 100% with these!

[Sarah]

I don't agree with the Say You Will Tour jukebox comment. They kick ass this time around, and I'd go see them every night if I could. I know you all care - especially since my opinion is different from yours.

Tango in the Night is the worst LB/SN era FM album. Mirage is ALWAYS better than Tango.

Behind the Mask sucks- and not because Lindsey isn't on it. The songs suck.

Time, while continuing the suck trend, sucks less than BTM.

The White Album is better than Rumours. Mystery to Me is, sometimes, better than the White Album. Mystery to Me is always better than Tango.

Bob Welch's Fleetwood Mac is AS GOOD AS- sometimes better than- Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac.

Sara is not a very good awesome ohmygod-worship-sara song. I'm glad they don't do it live, otherwise I might fall asleep. The music is boring. I don't care about the emotion. I also feel like half of the reason so many people like it is ONLY because of the mystery behind it and Stevie's not singing it. And, I also feel like they don't know that is the reason they like that song so much.

Chris' Tusk songs are better than Lindsey's.

Brown Eyes might just be the perfect song.

Empire State is a good song. As is Love in Store, Murrow, Red Rover, That's Alright, Welcome to the Room..Sara, and Seven Wonders.

Sugar Daddy is AWESOME as is Oh Daddy. I will never understand why people don't care about these songs.

Rhiannon kicked ass as an exorcism, and it has evolved into a more sophisticated version that CONTINUES to kick ass. I hope it is never dropped. I would be extremely sad to see it disappear.

I'm glad I Don't Want to Know replaced Silver Springs on Rumours. On the flipside, I'm glad Silver Springs was on the Dance. I love Silver Springs- and the Dance version does it more justice (in retrospect) than the Rumours version did, despite the beautiful way it was recorded.

Silver Springs also sounds better in Stevie's lower register.

The best part of the Little Lies video is John pretending to play an acoustic bass, not Lindsey's messed up chicken-walk.

It took me a long time to like Gypsy- because of the goatiness factor in Stevie's voice. Lindsey's ending guitar solo is the best part of the song.

Hold Me is better than Gypsy. Both in song and video.

My Little Demon blows, but I'm glad it's on The Dance purely for the fact that whoever did the "Dancing Alone" business included it and I'm able to hear Stevie and Chris' parts- and they kick ass.

Temporary One is one of Chris' best songs. Sweet Girl should be included live. It has potential to be a Mac classic.

I MISS CHRISTINE. Say You Will would have been better, IMO, WITH Ms. McVie.

Bleed to Love her on the Dance is better than BTLH on SYW. Lindsey's noodling is annoying.

Steal Your Heart Away sounds complete, and I think it's because you can hear Chris.

Peacekeeper is a good song. SMILE AT YOU is a GREAT song. Illume is a SUCKY song.

Thrown Down is better than Destiny Rules.

Murrow, Red Rover, and Say Goodbye are fantastic songs. Come is not that special on the record. Come is best live.

I don't care about Stevie's solo career. I have the stuff, and it's too 80s for me. I do, however, really like most of the Bella Donna album. But not Highway Man. I'm glad she released Enchanted so that I can have the select Stevie solo songs I like all in one place, but I never listen to it, nor do I listen to any of her other cds- except Bella Donna when I remember that I've forgotten it.

I like the Christine McVie album. A lot.

I like Lindsey's solo albums- and I'm glad they didn't get huge. I like the "little secret" feeling.

I like Mick. I didn't fall for the fanclub business. I don't blame Mick for the fiasco. Don't bother trying to convince me otherwise. He may have hired the man, and he may have found out about the stuff.. but I'd be willing to bet JT has a contract. The members of Fleetwood Mac don't even TYPE when they participate in online chats. What the hell makes you think they have anything
to do with the inner workings- REGARDLESS of whether they manage themselves through "Seedy Management" or not.

John McVie is the most entertaining member of Fleetwood Mac. His answers to questions are always a thousand times better than everyone else's. He's not self-righteous, and he is very witty. He may have only co-written on a few songs, but Fleetwood Mac would be nearly nothing without him.
I shudder to think what nearly ALL of Fleetwood Mac's songs would sound like without John on bass.

I'm sure I could think of more.. but I'm sure people only skim these answers to see what they can pick apart. Here are some nails and some boards: hang me up.

Sarah

[The Catdancer]

Originally posted by Sarah


Sara is not a very good awesome ohmygod-worship-sara song. I'm glad they don't do it live, otherwise I might fall asleep. The music is boring. I don't care about the emotion. I also feel like half of the reason so many people like it is ONLY because of the mystery behind it and Stevie's not singing it. And, I also feel like they don't know that is the reason they like that song so much.


Illume is a SUCKY song.


Sarah

But there is no mystery as to why Stevie doesn't do it live anymore. She simply got bored with it and so did the rest of the band. She said that in a recent interview, I just don't know which one.

Ilumme ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!

[Sarah]

*changes opinion JUST FOR YOU!*

whatever.

[dissention]

Originally posted by Sarah
*changes opinion JUST FOR YOU!*

whatever.

She was only expressing her thoughts, just like you were. No need to get hostile.

[Sarah]

Nah. She was directly trying to prove my OPINION(s) wrong.

And I'm still waiting for the explanation of what Sara means.. I mean, if everybody's got it all figured out, etc.. but last time I heard, that meaning of that song was still kind of mysterious- despite our speculations.

And, Illume still sucks.

[gldstwmn]

This would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed. I can't stand this version of Smile At You. John's bass on Illume is fantastic, IMHO.

[dissention]

I can't stand Red Rover. It's simply the product of a studio hermit's constant tinkering and over-production. The lyrics are just a jumble of words that don't really convey the message that it's meant to. The vocals stink, especially the "Red rover, red rover, red rover....we have come, we have come..." Blech. I personally think that it's just so out there that some people go out of their way to say it's a masterpiece even though they know it's sh*t. It's anything but to these ears; it makes them bleed, for cripes sake. And to think that Down On Rodeo was left off in favor of this garbage...It's clunky, junky, over-produced, studio trash that masquerades as something arty and important, when in all actuality, it's just self-indulgent crap that the majority of people wouldn't want to hear. It's just not *enjoyable* to listen to and I can't find even *ONE* redeeming quality in it.

[Sarah]

Originally posted by dissention
I can't find even *ONE* redeeming quality in it.

Not even the complex & interwoven guitar parts? Wow.

Oh well. I can't find one redeeming quality about Illume, so, I guess it's kind of even. Illume sucks more than Silver Girl.