Christine wants to rejoin the band according to The Guardian

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

We don't need more solo albums. We need more Fleetwood Mac albums. It's a crime that they've only released four studio albums in the past 30 years.

i need more solo albums from Lindsey much more than any Mac albums. but i want to hear all those songs Men of Mac recorded last year, and i'm really looking forward to hearing them as a part of the Mac album with Christine.

it's unbelievable really how huge of a name and career they have on such dismal output since 1975.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Yes, it will help her career.

What I'm saying is it wont help her solo career...The time she spends with FM is time she could be working on a solo album which is what we want and the clock is ticking...

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Promoting a documentary on the recording of an album that bombed (188,000 in the US; 500,000 worldwide) while on tour with Fleetwood Mac? Otherwise, touring with Rod Stewart?

I could care less about sales..."IYD" is the best thing Stevie has done in a long time and I want more Stevie solo...

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I'm not saying it's etched in stone, but I betcha a new album with Fleetwood Mac (with our without Christine) could do better than that.

Yep a new FM record is the ONLY chance LB,CM,MF & JM have of being noticed In terms of new material...

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Huh? You're about thirty years off. Stevie has always been well known and, for the most part, popular. Her image took a beating between 1987-1997, and it took a Fleetwood Mac reunion to restore that image.

I'm not talking about the 80's...WOW could you imagine if Stevie and the Mac were that successful again...You have to admit that she's quite popular these days...

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

In all fairness, that's not what was said. It's about staying on topic, not completely cutting out other band members in the thread. When the focus becomes about Stevie, a thread gets derailed, and for members (or non members) coming in to read about Christine, that's frustrating to find post after post that's not about the topic at hand. Feel free to mention Stevie all you want... but the focus of the thread is about Christine's return.

That's exactly what was said...I understand you wanting to keep things "on topic" but how are numerous posts referring to Lindsey's solo work considered "on topic" while posts about "Stevie Freaking Nicks are "off topic"

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Can we PLEASE let this one thread, just this ONE thread, not be about Stevie Nicks? This is about Christine McVie returning to Fleetwood Mac...Can we keep it to that? Christine's return deserves better respect than this thread is giving her.

We should be talking about where Chris goes from here. Where would the band record a new album? LA? England Hawaii? Does this mean Chris might return to the US in some capacity? Would the band record an album or tour with her first? Was there a watershed event that could have happened in Chris life to precipitate her wanting to rejoin the band? What do we think Chris would have to say about an outside producer for a new album? There are so, so many questions I have... and none of them have anything to do with Stevie freaking Nicks.

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I don't think Christine's return to Fleetwood Mac will affect Stevie's recent success whatsoever. I think that ball lies in Stevie's court anyway... if Stevie wants Chris back, then why is it (or does it) have to be a bad thing? You spoke of Stevie's recent success, and of her building her career back up... Chris's return cannot affect Stevie's career negatively. There are people who love Fleetwood Mac but don't like Stevie solo... Also, what success are you talking about? Album sales? Because In Your Dreams didn't exactly set the world on fire.

Again not talking about sales...IYD is one of the best things Stevie has ever done...Maybe I shouldn't use the word sucess

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Fleetwood Mac is a separate entity, and as a whole (the five of them), they have much more power, buzz, and charisma. Look at Say You Will... if you base it purely on sales, it came nowhere near what The Dance did. I think that's for obvious reasons - take Chris out of the equation and the core of the band becomes skewed. I have always felt that since her absence they've been trying to become Fleetwood Mac again, and haven't quite reached the goal line.

The band became skewed because Chris was never replaced...In terms of album sales the industry's not what it used to be so there's a chance that no matter how good a new Mac album is that sales will not be as good as "The Dance" or "SYW" were...Or even IYD (sorry I couldn't help it)

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Also, this doesn't feel like Chris cashing in either. She said in the article that she realized after 15 years of living alone that it wasn't what she wanted at all... she misses her bandmates. I don't think money even enters into it at this point, and when it does, I'd imagine it's the least of all her reasons.

Sorry it just seems like she want's in while the getting is good...While we're on the subject of $$$ I read somewhere that Chris sold all the rights to everything when she retired...Has anyone else heard this??? So besides missing the Mac she may also need a big paycheck...

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I have no reason to believe that Stevie is at all ready to cash in her chips and retire... but, even if she were to do so within the next few years, I think she would feel that one last album and tour with Christine in Fleetwood Mac would be ending her career on a high note. Stevie has mad-love for Fleetwood Mac, and I think having "her band" completely back together would give her the utmost joy. (Most especially after the personal losses she's had the past few years.)

I don't think Stevie's retiring anytime soon but at the same time she knows she doesn't have time for many more projects...Personally I think Stevie would rather do something that would get her the respect as a solo artist that she hasn't received yet like a solo Grammy or be voted into the RRHOF as a solo artist...

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

One minor nitpick... an album by a 65-year-old pop/rock artist, that does those numbers, isn't considered a "bomb" these days. Those sales might not live up to the glory days, but they're nothing to write off. Even Paul freakin' McCartney's latest album has "only" sold something like 75,000 copies so far in the US. In the past, that album would have sold 500,000 copies right out of the gate..

(Additionally, I thought we've all agreed in the past that "success" is measured by more than just how many copies an album sells. Otherwise, all of those indie bands we all love, are "failures.")

Exactly! Like I keep saying "I don't care about sales" But rather successful from an artistic or "critically acclaimed" point of view...

Sorry for the long post and I know I'm in the minority here because I'd rather have a solo Stevie album over a FM album it just doesn't make any difference to me if there are 4 or 5 in the band...

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by elle

i need more solo albums from Lindsey much more than any Mac albums. but i want to hear all those songs Men of Mac recorded last year, and i'm really looking forward to hearing them as a part of the Mac album with Christine.

it's unbelievable really how huge of a name and career they have on such dismal output since 1975.

I'm with you but I'd prefer a new Stevie solo 1st...Although I'm a wee bit curious what a new FM song would sound like as long as LB stays away from the controls...

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by elle

it's unbelievable really how huge of a name and career they have on such dismal output since 1975.

It's because they keep beating the daylights out of "Rumours"

Fans keep complaining how Stevie keeps promoting "Landslide"...I feel the same way about "Rumours" I mean the FM is so much more than that...it's not the only thing they have done...

[elle]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

I'm with you but I'd prefer a new Stevie solo 1st...Although I'm a wee bit curious what a new FM song would sound like as long as LB stays away from the controls...

hey - understandable, i'd prefer a new Lindsey solo first too! i am thinking though that Chrsitine having already recorded some songs will push the Mac album in the works towards completion... but how long will it take to actually get it out with all the band politics, managers and lawyers... who knows? so Lindsey might as well record some solo songs and put another album out in the meantime, since he seems to be on the roll these past few years.

one nitpick though with your last post - if you are choosing to refer to critically acclaimed success of solo albums vs sales, you can't say LB's solo albums are unnoticed by the critics or not critically acclaimed, because they mostly are. of course, if you are talking about sales, that's a completely different story.

and, LB has made abundantly clear that he does not want to produce FM's next album, so not sure why is that being repeatedly brought up as an issue.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I'm sure she had a huge payday when she sold her publishing.

I sincerely doubt she's doing it for the money.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ric...vie-net-worth/

http://www.richestnetworth.com/chris...vie-net-worth/

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

What I'm saying is it wont help her solo career...The time she spends with FM is time she could be working on a solo album which is what we want and the clock is ticking...

Speak for yourself. There hasn't been a studio album with the Rumours 5 since 1987. Since then Stevie has released 4 solo albums, Lindsey has released 4 solo albums, and Christine has released 1. All 3 Mac singer/songwriters have recorded solo albums in the 21st Century. It's time for a 21st Century Mac album with all 5 present.

Oh, and a Mac album with all 5 present would simply keep the spotlight on all Mac members, and would only bolster any future solo projects.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

and, LB has made abundantly clear that he does not want to produce FM's next album, so not sure why is that being repeatedly brought up as an issue.

Until Lindsey doesn't produce the next album, I won't believe that he is not going to or doesn't want to and I want him at the controls of his and Christine's stuff. Stevie can do what she wants, because no one needs to hear the complaints.

Michele

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Regarding me hating on Stevie... she's my favorite member, always has been.

That's why I want to hear more about Christine in this thread. Not because I hate Stevie... quite the opposite. But because I LOVE Fleetwood Mac. I didn't ask for the Stevie conversation to be shut down from a Moderator perspective... I just want to hear more about Chris from a fan perspective. There's so much to speculate! Let the games begin!

I understand...I just had a problem with Stevie being singled out because just as many "Off topic" posts were about Lindsey...

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

That's exactly what was said...I understand you wanting to keep things "on topic" but how are numerous posts referring to Lindsey's solo work considered "on topic" while posts about "Stevie Freaking Nicks are "off topic"

Nowhere in that post did louie propose that you nix the Nicks talk "or else"... he suggested that it was time to get the train back on the tracks. Discuss Lindsey and Stevie all you want, that's encouraged, as along as it's relevant to the original thread topic itself. With a thread as special as this one, I think that's a fair thing to ask. To answer your question though, we mods tend to step in when a thread has already started to go a bit too much off topic. This isn't Minority Report in here - we can't anticipate what might be said - so we have to wait until it veers, then we make an effort to pull it back into the right lane. If you want to be argumentative furthermore about what a mod has asked/suggested, I would recommend not commenting at all or PM-ing that mod.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I think SYW was too long. I'd make it longer than a regular album, but less than 18 tracks. Maybe 14.
I liked it just fine. I like Lindsey and Stevie together.If I had to choose, of the 3, it's "easier" for me to lose Christine, if one can call the pang I've had since The Dance tour ended "easy" in any sense of the word.
I've never wanted to choose and I like the whole band better than I like any of them as individuals and better than I like Stevie and Lindsey as a duo and I'd give all of their solo careers up to have Fleetwood Mac for the rest of their lives.
But I like the solo stuff too. Just if I have to prioritize that is how I'd do it.

I feel the exact same way as you do except about the length of the SYW album. 18 songs isn't too much when I love a band. There are never too many songs for me. There could have been 30 songs and I would have been thrilled because you never know how long in between albums it's going to be. I'll gladly accept as many songs on a record as they can fit. And like you I'd gladly go without another solo album in favor of a FM album with all 5 for the rest of our lives.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Until Lindsey doesn't produce the next album, I won't believe that he is not going to or doesn't want to and I want him at the controls of his and Christine's stuff. Stevie can do what she wants, because no one needs to hear the complaints.

I'll never understand why she has allowed her songs to go out when she didn't like the way they were produced. She has a history of complaints about badly produced songs, including in her solo career.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Personally I'm looking forward to another solo album from Stevie and hopefully something from "Buckingham/Nicks" but now that it looks like Christine is selfishly going to throw a wrench in Stevie's works we might not get either...

Oh, please. Christine is not throwing a wrench in Stevie's solo work. This is the woman who released just two albums in a ten-year span. She's the woman who released her song about Hurricane Katrina six years after it happened. Stevie is responsible for Stevie's lack of output.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I feel the exact same way as you do except about the length of the SYW album. 18 songs isn't too much when I love a band. There are never too many songs for me.

We used to go to this deli in Michigan and get corned beef and my mother said she didn't like it because: "they give you too much meat." Of course, we all thoroughly laughed at her for that statement. If it's too much meat for one sandwich, just take some out and make yourself a second sandwich later!

I suppose I only say there should have been less than 18 songs because some of them stunk.

Michele

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by michelej1

We used to go to this deli in Michigan and get corned beef and my mother said she didn't like it because: "they give you too much meat."
I suppose I only say there should have been less than 18 songs because some of them stunk.

I agree with your mother. Too much meat on a sandwich is annoying. I'd rather taste the fresh bread.
Sure some of the songs stunk but that is another reason why 18 weren't too many. That way we could gather the ones we liked and ignore the rest and we still have a cool album to listen to. I haven't listened to that CD in over a year so I'm going to go from memory only and say the only song I really didn't like on it was Silver Hurl.I know there were a few more on my skip it list but that one topped them all as my throwaway track.