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Old 10-27-2013, 03:39 AM
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:47 AM
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Oh..No..this is so, so sad. I was hoping it was a hoax, but the longer it went on, the more I doubted it was.

I just want to wish John and his family the best and pray for John's speedy recovery.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:01 AM
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So heartbroken. I still don't understand why the message on Facebook was deleted AT LEAST twice from what I've seen and I just saw it was reposted an hour ago (it is currently 5am EST. that means the message was posted again at 4am EST or so? Really??) I'm still confused by it all.

Seriously you guys, I see several of you are now saying its real but how do you know? The official website says NOTHING and still is showing the upcoming tour dates and linking me to buy tickets. In fact I'm still able to buy tickets to the Sydney show (its just what I happened to click on but I assume that it'd be the same for all of them...). I'm only seeing a little bit when I google and most links seem to be saying its still unclear.

So why are we saying its for real now? I mean I can follow all the logic in the speculation on how it might be true but exactly how do we know yet? I sure think even if it is true that they need to change the Facebook message and put it on their website, etc.

Does anyone have a link to prove this yet? For real? So, so frustrating. And I can't imagine what it must be like- whether its true or whether it isn't- to be John right now.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:01 AM
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I had a feeling they were true.

Sending all the best to John, his family, and to the rest of the Mac.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:03 AM
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So heartbroken. I still don't understand why the message on Facebook was deleted AT LEAST twice from what I've seen and I just saw it was reposted an hour ago (it is currently 5am EST. that means the message was posted again at 4am EST or so? Really??) I'm still confused by it all.

Seriously you guys, I see several of you are now saying its real but how do you know? The official website says NOTHING and still is showing the upcoming tour dates and linking me to buy tickets. In fact I'm still able to buy tickets to the Sydney show (its just what I happened to click on but I assume that it'd be the same for all of them...). I'm only seeing a little bit when I google and most links seem to be saying its still unclear.

So why are we saying its for real now? I mean I can follow all the logic in the speculation on how it might be true but exactly how do we know yet? I sure think even if it is true that they need to change the Facebook message and put it on their website, etc.

Does anyone have a link to prove this yet? For real? So, so frustrating. And I can't imagine what it must be like- whether its true or whether it isn't- to be John right now.
Live Nation has confirmed it and explained how refunds will be issued: http://www.livenation.com.au/news
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:05 AM
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Ah man... cancer sucks. Well... we love ya, John! Get better and get back on that stage soon!
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:09 AM
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Sitting here totally in shock, tears & heartbroken, i wish John best wishes & a very speedy recovery...

And selfishly feeling sorry for myself for missing out on seeing The Mac & Stevie's IYD's Doco, Q & A most probably!!
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:21 AM
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So heartbroken. I still don't understand why the message on Facebook was deleted AT LEAST twice from what I've seen and I just saw it was reposted an hour ago (it is currently 5am EST. that means the message was posted again at 4am EST or so? Really??) I'm still confused by it all.

Seriously you guys, I see several of you are now saying its real but how do you know? The official website says NOTHING and still is showing the upcoming tour dates and linking me to buy tickets. In fact I'm still able to buy tickets to the Sydney show (its just what I happened to click on but I assume that it'd be the same for all of them...). I'm only seeing a little bit when I google and most links seem to be saying its still unclear.

So why are we saying its for real now? I mean I can follow all the logic in the speculation on how it might be true but exactly how do we know yet? I sure think even if it is true that they need to change the Facebook message and put it on their website, etc.

Does anyone have a link to prove this yet? For real? So, so frustrating. And I can't imagine what it must be like- whether its true or whether it isn't- to be John right now.
I understand your disbelief. The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. I didn't want to believe it either when the message was first posted, but I does appear to be true now.

In situations like this were a tour is already booked, the promoters are usually the first one's to announce a cancellation, because the fans want to know how to get their money back on the tickets they have already bought.

The official band website usually waits and announces the cancellation after the promoters, so I'm pretty sure the FM official website should update their site soon.

Here's a link to the promoters (Live Nation) Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/LiveNationOzNz

You can check it out yourself.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:29 AM
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I guess they just didn't want the news to come out before the show. I'm sure John wanted to be long on a plane before all the sentimentality started. They prepared a statement but then it got posted too soon, it seems.

Any videos we get from the last show this year will be very poignant to watch. Even Don't Stop, or perhaps, especially, Don't Stop could not have been easy for them. I want to savor that, the band intros and the last bow. But it's not goodbye. We're holding them to another tour when John is mended!

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Old 10-27-2013, 04:29 AM
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You have to wonder just when they all knew.......
Everything points to way back when Christine went to Hawaii...
Why if they knew then would they let him tour instead of starting treatment right away....
And if they knew ..... how were they able to act like nothing was wrong???
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:33 AM
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You have to wonder just when they all knew.......
Everything points to way back when Christine went to Hawaii...
Why if they knew then would they let him tour instead of starting treatment right away....
And if they knew ..... how were they able to act like nothing was wrong???
I don't think they all knew since Hawaii. But John probably has not been feeling well since for a while now. Maybe he didn't know what it was or just thought it was age. When you start a tour like this the performers usually go through a medical examination and get insured for the tour, so maybe nothing was diagnosed at that point.

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Old 10-27-2013, 04:34 AM
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Live Nation has confirmed it and explained how refunds will be issued: http://www.livenation.com.au/news
Thanks. And ugh. I think I was still holding onto hope. I'm a little bit freaked out because just last week I was having a rough day that was made better by listening to Fleetwood Mac (of course) and I started rattling on about how I desperately needed to see them again and hopefully one day meet them all. In fact I've really been trying to find a way to get to that Vegas show (is that off too? Anyone know?). And I feel so awful for saying this but just last week I seriously said "I really need to go do this. They might not tour again for a few years and you never know what could happen..." and I felt really strange saying that- probably just because of course no one wants to imagine their favorite entertainers getting sick or anything. To be fair I have a life threatening illness myself and added in that it could be me who doesn't live for another tour (and that's a big part of why I wanted to get to Vegas though with medical needs I need to find someone to join me)... Anyway... I just hate that I said that so recently. Not an outrageous thing to say I suppose.

I can also say that I'm alive today several times over thanks to modern medicine. And I'm not a rock star just a poor disabled 20-something with complex and rare medical issues. Mine has no cure but I'm still here. Obviously we don't know what kind of cancer John has or the prognosis or anything. But people do beat cancer. And maybe money doesn't always buy the best care but it buys you more options and sure eases the financial burdens of serious illness. And John is not only well loved by all of us but also obviously has the band and his family and all. So he's going into this battle with more than many and that helps no matter what.

And ugh sorry to ramble on. I still regret that I've only seen the Mac once and passed up the previous tour and of course I'm young so didn't have much chance before that. It meant the whole world to me to finally see them. It was the top of my bucket list and hands down the best concert I've ever been to. I keep refusing to go to any concerts honestly because they can't live up to it. I still can close my eyes and listen to my vinyl and imagine I'm there. And it was the happiest day I had in so, so long. Everyone tried to get me to cancel because of my health in fact. I only bought tickets that same day. Still laugh at how everyone in the handicap section was standing up and out of their wheelchairs singing and dancing for at least part of the show. I keep joking that Fleetwood Mac is a miracle worker- making the sick dance. Anyway, I'm sure we've all got out stories and happy memories. And I think you know- I hope John knows how much of a difference he's made in all of our lives. I'm just a lonely girl who might not live to be 30 and I've had to face my own mortality and all and I always feel like I haven't had enough time and haven't done enough. And that concert was hands down one of the very best days of my life. I hope then that there will be more Mac shows. That John will beat the cancer. That he does know how loved he is and what a mark he's made. That in 2014 or 15 or whenever hell be back and better than ever. And maybe I'll finally get my dream of meeting them all too.


Anyway seriously sorry for all the sap. I know the band and all its members mean so much to all of us. And this sucks. There's no other way to put that. And darn it I've been up all night and need to try and sleep and my mind is racing thinking about all of this. I never even got a good picture of him at the concert I went to because I was sitting far over to the opposite side. Silly thing to think about... So here's hoping for future concerts for all of us and a one day healthy John who kicks cancer's butt!
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:35 AM
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I don't think they all knew since Hawaii. But John probably has not been feeling well since for a while now. Maybe he didn't know what it was or just thought it was age. When you start a tour like this the performers usually go through a medical examination and get insured for the tour, so maybe nothing was diagnosed at that point.
Not Hawaii, but probably at some point after that. During the American leg, at the earliest.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:42 AM
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This is very sad news. Wishing John a speedy recovery and my thoughts are with him and his family and all of FM.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:43 AM
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I don't think they all knew since Hawaii. But John probably has not been feeling well since for a while now. Maybe he didn't know what it was or just thought it was age. When you start a tour like this the performers usually go through a medical examination and get insured for the tour, so maybe nothing was diagnosed at that point.

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Maybe something did happen around the Hawaii date though. Like they didn't have answers but he got suddenly worse (or the symptoms showed for the first time) and he was facing testing and everyone, including Chris, came to rally around him for support? I mean sometimes its just as scary to not know what is wrong yet, you know? Granted I'm not as in the know on everything as some so just a thought. I know that the word cancer is always a scary one (even though there's a number of other equally devestating and scary diseases out there too) but maybe they didn't know it was cancer yet- just that's when they knew something was up. John seems like the type who might have tried to hide it though, I don't know. But its sure hard to be sick alone. And if you've got a history of alcoholism or any other kind of demons, it sure helps to have your friends and loved ones close when you're facing something so huge.

Anyway, we may never know though. Its all speculative. Here's hoping that they never have to tell us about it all (on the grounds that wont be any need) and that John makes a complete recovery.
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