Obama Getting Americans Hooked On 'Crack Cocaine' Of Health Care Dependency

[RockawayBlind]

Originally Posted by vivfox

This makes no sense.

What puzzles you about it?

[RockawayBlind]

Originally Posted by Sapphire Girl

CNBC reporter: Mr. President, do you like to play golf?
Pres Obama: Yes. Yes, I do like to play golf. Sorry, but that's all I have time for.

Uh, you do realize CNBC is actually very pro-business and by and large filled with conservatives, right?

[RockawayBlind]

Originally Posted by diane_k

It's embarrassing how far the tea baggers have come. On so little! You do know there were THIRTEEN Benghazi-like attacks during the Dubya years. Where is your outcry for those lost souls?

Diane, something you need to understand about Tea Partiers: They don't understand facts. They don't believe in evolution, science is a hoax and the mirrors they look into are programmed to show princes and princesses.

Remember, now, this is the same crowd that convinced itself Obama was going to lose badly against Romney, that all the polls that showed Obama was leading were wrong for some reason, that when Ohio was called for Obama (effectively guaranteeing his reelection) they couldn't believe it. They are now convincing themselves Obama, whom they hate so much, created the current situation, but the facts don't bear that out.

The funny thing is some of those delusional people, like Karl Rove, have actually come around. They are now trying to figure out how to slay the monster they created with the know-nothing tea partiers.

Look, you have to choose to be informed in this society where information hits you so fast and from so many places that it makes you dizzy. And if you choose to be informed, you learn, for instance, that a few string-pullers in the Republican Party planned this shutdown for months. It's fact and it's documented. You learn that Democrats gave in on budgeting demands from tea partiers. It's fact and it's document. That this battle started two weeks ago over Obamacare and now has morphed into a battle about the debt ceiling. Again, fact and documented.

Thankfully the tea party adherents, who claim they would have us go back to the 1950s (though what they really mean is pre-civil war times) would have us do away with work safety protections, kill the EPA, reverse civil rights legislation and send everybody who disagrees with them "back to where they came from." They want their country back, they say. The funny thing is, it's not their country. Never was, never will be. America has set an example to the world in bringing lots of different cultures together, melding those cultures, and for the most part succeeding in living peacefully with each other. Tea partiers aren't interested in that. When they claim Obama is racist, for instance, they are looking at one of those special mirrors I mentioned earlier.

It's a perplexing thing, and I fear the only way to solve this issue is going to through some kind of ugly struggle... and the tea partiers will be the first ones to take their guns out.

[diane_k]

Originally Posted by RockawayBlind

Diane, something you need to understand about Tea Partiers: They don't understand facts. They don't believe in evolution, science is a hoax and the mirrors they look into are programmed to show princes and princesses.

Remember, now, this is the same crowd that convinced itself Obama was going to lose badly against Romney, that all the polls that showed Obama was leading were wrong for some reason, that when Ohio was called for Obama (effectively guaranteeing his reelection) they couldn't believe it. They are now convincing themselves Obama, whom they hate so much, created the current situation, but the facts don't bear that out.

The funny thing is some of those delusional people, like Karl Rove, have actually come around. They are now trying to figure out how to slay the monster they created with the know-nothing tea partiers.

Look, you have to choose to be informed in this society where information hits you so fast and from so many places that it makes you dizzy. And if you choose to be informed, you learn, for instance, that a few string-pullers in the Republican Party planned this shutdown for months. It's fact and it's documented. You learn that Democrats gave in on budgeting demands from tea partiers. It's fact and it's document. That this battle started two weeks ago over Obamacare and now has morphed into a battle about the debt ceiling. Again, fact and documented.

Thankfully the tea party adherents, who claim they would have us go back to the 1950s (though what they really mean is pre-civil war times) would have us do away with work safety protections, kill the EPA, reverse civil rights legislation and send everybody who disagrees with them "back to where they came from." They want their country back, they say. The funny thing is, it's not their country. Never was, never will be. America has set an example to the world in bringing lots of different cultures together, melding those cultures, and for the most part succeeding in living peacefully with each other. Tea partiers aren't interested in that. When they claim Obama is racist, for instance, they are looking at one of those special mirrors I mentioned earlier.

It's a perplexing thing, and I fear the only way to solve this issue is going to through some kind of ugly struggle... and the tea partiers will be the first ones to take their guns out.

ALL true. And high f'ing five for putting it so well.

It's also fact that the majority of the TP comes from the fattest, reddest, poorest, most uneducated states in the Union. They follow the person that hollers the loudest, and unfortunately that has never really been a trait of logical people.

I'm really hoping that turtle in a suit (Mitch McConnell as he's known on the street) doesn't get far with taking the caps off of campaign spending limits. God only knows what could happen if the old rich men could throw in as much cash as they wanted. Of course, Sheldon Adelsson's (sp) plan for 2012 didn't really go the way he wanted, so maybe there's hope?

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by QueenStevie

You make sensible people laugh! -- You JUST CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

I make most people laugh..it's what I do. But, to put yourself in that group of people described as "sensible" is the most laughable.

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[Sapphire Girl]

Who here has been successful in signing up on the $634 million ACA/Obamacare site aka www.trainwreck.gov?

[WatchChain]

OK, we get it !! You HATE the man.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by diane_k

It's also fact that the majority of the TP comes from the fattest, reddest, poorest, most uneducated states in the Union.

Well what are you bitching about Ms. K.? These fat people that you dislike so much! These are the people that you and your party cater to. The fat, lazy asses sitting on their couches all day with free health care, subsidized housing, and food stamps. The only time they do move is to spread their legs so they can produce another offspring that the rest of us can take care of. And this isn't restricted to any one part of the country, it's all over, even in your state Ms. K!

[becca]

Well this went well.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by jwd

These are the people that you and your party cater to. The fat, lazy asses sitting on their couches all day with free health care, subsidized housing, and food stamps.

I feel sorry for you because you think with a venemous mind.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I feel sorry for you because you think with a venemous mind.

I feel sorry for you because you think with a naive mind and can't differentiate between those who need and those who abuse.

[louielouie2000]

Okay, folks... keep it to the issues or this thread will be closed.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by jwd

Well what are you bitching about Ms. K.? These fat people that you dislike so much! These are the people that you and your party cater to. The fat, lazy asses sitting on their couches all day with free health care, subsidized housing, and food stamps. The only time they do move is to spread their legs so they can produce another offspring that the rest of us can take care of.

I'm trying to picture what these people look like in your mind. Can you please describe them in detail to me. Who are they? What people are you referring to?

[Macfanforever]

I just got my copy of RollingStone mag in the mail today.

It looks like they got a good article in the National Affairs section about whats going on down there.

I dont know its available online.

Ill read it tonight.