Ann & Nancy Couldn't Match Stevie's Intake

[rhiannondontgo]

Originally Posted by MikeInNV

I don't really see what it could add to the book. It seems like a knock at Stevie, and to what end? Is there more to the story, or do they just want everyone to know that Stevie did a lot of drugs, which is not a newsflash for anybody.

I think they were just using it as an example about how crazy drug usage was in those days and how they couldn't even keep up. I didn't read it yet, but I plan to. That's just what the gist was that i've heard about so far. If anybody has the book, i'd love for you to elaborate.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by rhiannondontgo

Honestly, I understand Stevie completely here. I agree that she can be ridiculous and stubborn and quit silly sometimes, but she's honest and straight-up about how she feels. She has every right to say that she didn't like being in the book. Personally, like most people have, I've made about a million mistakes and bad life choices and been involved in a ton of really stupid situations, and I know that. But I really wouldn't be happy if 40 years from now people were still writing about it and discussing it and asking me about it in every interview. Stevie's coke habit lasted for what, 14 or so years? Meanwhile she had a good 25ish years before that where she never did drugs, and then was clean off coke for another 25 years after that. But because of that much smaller segment of her life where she was using drugs, it's arguably one of things she's most famous for and most often asked about. It has to have gotten very old by now and she's probably sick of listening to other people tell her how much drugs she was consuming. She knows and that's all that matters. I think it's perfectly fair for her to say she doesn't like it, and I like that she's honest about her feelings.
That being said, I agree that Ann & Nancy did not mean any harm by writing it, and it's really no big deal. In fact I adore Heart. I don't think they meant to upset her at all.

I wouldn't say Stevie didn't do drugs until she did coke. She's smoked pot forever and still does (which sort of blows my mind re: her voice) as well as numerous other substances. It was just the coke that took over her life (until Klonopin).

[rhiannondontgo]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I wouldn't say Stevie didn't do drugs until she did coke. She's smoked pot forever and still does (which sort of blows my mind re: her voice) as well as numerous other substances. It was just the coke that took over her life (until Klonopin).

I don't really mind that she smokes pot. I think when you've spent so many years completely tranquilized, and many other years under the influence of 'pot and brandy', a joint now and then really isn't much. I know she used to take a shot of tequila before shows in 2001 to chill out the stage fright, maybe she uses pot in the same way. I wouldworry for her voice if it was an everyday thing but I think if she still tokes, it's probably not that often.
What I wish she would quit are the cigarettes. I know there's debate about whether she smokes occasionally or not, but i've talked to multiple people who have seen her lighting up long after 97. Maybe she just needs one now and then. I'm a smoker myself (I'm aware, it's an idiotic habit), but I'm not 64 and I don't have a career that relies on my voice. If I did, I'd never light up again.
But she's a stubborn little thing.

[Fannymac]

Sorry.....love Stevie to death, but I can't support her on this one....it happened, deal with it! You think that when Stevie gets around to writing the book she's been promising for years that SHE'S clearing every little story with everyone involved?!?
I SERIOUSLY doubt it!

[MikeInNV]

Originally Posted by Fannymac

Sorry.....love Stevie to death, but I can't support her on this one....it happened, deal with it! You think that when Stevie gets around to writing the book she's been promising for years that SHE'S clearing every little story with everyone involved?!?
I SERIOUSLY doubt it!

Well I sort of agree with you. One life lesson that we all need to learn is that you can't do or say something and then expect other people not to talk about it. Still, I'd like to see the actual text to see how it reads. From the information we have now, it just seems like taking a shot for the sake of taking a shot.

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by Fannymac

Sorry.....love Stevie to death, but I can't support her on this one....it happened, deal with it! You think that when Stevie gets around to writing the book she's been promising for years that SHE'S clearing every little story with everyone involved?!?
I SERIOUSLY doubt it!

Stevie said she doesn't want to write about the nitty gritty stuff. She's gonna write about all of the amazing moments, how things began, etc. So I guess that's why she feels she can say that - because she's not going to write about any of the "bad stuff" so she wishes other people wouldn't either (at least, not the stuff involving her ).

[olive]

Originally Posted by Fannymac

Sorry.....love Stevie to death, but I can't support her on this one....it happened, deal with it! You think that when Stevie gets around to writing the book she's been promising for years that SHE'S clearing every little story with everyone involved?!?
I SERIOUSLY doubt it!

took the words right out of my mouth . all they did was tell a story as it happened , the need to white wash everything to is absolutely BS , the lesson here is no matter who you are what ever you do will come back eventually, you can't change history .

Especially now with video cameras built in to phones and the personal stuff people post /tweet , like some one just said the graduating class this year buy the time they are 30 will have posted or sext a naked photo of them self at least once.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by MikeInNV

I don't really see what it could add to the book. It seems like a knock at Stevie, and to what end? Is there more to the story, or do they just want everyone to know that Stevie did a lot of drugs, which is not a newsflash for anybody.

I don't know. Maybe they thought of it as a type of measurement. Like, "I was a big drinker but John Wayne could drink even me under the table." I don't think it was related with any bitterness or malice. I don't see it as a swipe, but as Stevie I still would find it gratuitous to have it in there and I would not be pleased. As a reader, I think it's just dandy.

I don't think it's wrong for Stevie to complain about it. Complaints are not censorship. They have a right to put it in the book and she has a right to say she doesn't like its insertion. I don't see either side as being in the wrong.

Michele

[gypsy4life]

I own the book...and like I said before...it was just odd..
Nancy went out of her way to say that Stevie's house looked like a shrine to herself...then said they didn't know how to do drugs like Stevie...I just find it hard to believe they didn't know how to go up and come back down with another susbstance.
Ann later says when she adopted her baby girl that she thought she had already paid her dues staying up all night when she tried to party with Stevie..
I love Heart but it was rudely pointed....Stevie is not the only artist to fall on their double edged sword in the book.
Execpt Alice In Chains...they partyed together constantly but were apparently super talented so that made up for it...

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Fannymac

Sorry.....love Stevie to death, but I can't support her on this one....it happened, deal with it! You think that when Stevie gets around to writing the book she's been promising for years that SHE'S clearing every little story with everyone involved?!?
I SERIOUSLY doubt it!

Well, she's certainly taken her fair share of shots at Lindsey over the years and am certain she didn't clear any of them with him beforehand... And she's taken her shots at Mick as well. The only one I don't recall her taking any shots at in the band has been Christine.... but I'd be afraid of doing that too!

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Well, she's certainly taken her fair share of shots at Lindsey over the years and am certain she didn't clear any of them with him beforehand... And she's taken her shots at Mick as well. The only one I don't recall her taking any shots at in the band has been Christine.... but I'd be afraid of doing that too!

ahm... check today's posts on Christine board.

(seems SN apparently takes shots at people without even realizing it... and you need to know the stevie-speak in order to understand she didn't really mean it )

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by elle

ahm... check today's posts on Christine board.

(seems SN apparently takes shots at people without even realizing it... and you need to know the stevie-speak in order to understand she didn't really mean it )

She didn't say anything negative about Christine at all though. Quite the contrary.

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Well, she's certainly taken her fair share of shots at Lindsey over the years and am certain she didn't clear any of them with him beforehand... And she's taken her shots at Mick as well. The only one I don't recall her taking any shots at in the band has been Christine.... but I'd be afraid of doing that too!

But I think Stevie's problem with it is that she wasn't very close with Ann or Nancy. If she had been best friends with them, I think she would expect them to write about her (she never complained about Mic including her in his book), but instead they just partied a few times and instead of mentioning anything good about her, rather they discussed a party they had with her and how she was way more of a drug addict than them. I love Heart, but I can see why Stevie is a little confused as to why they put her in the book. She clearly was not a big part of their life, they clearly did not look up to her as an inspiration, and so the only reason it seems they put her in the book it to use her as a name drop to bring in some more readers or use her to make themselves look better. Either way, they didn't talk about Stevie to tell a story, they used Stevie for other reasons so I can understand why she would prefer they left her out.

[MikeInNV]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I don't know. Maybe they thought of it as a type of measurement. Like, "I was a big drinker but John Wayne could drink even me under the table." I don't think it was related with any bitterness or malice. I don't see it as a swipe, but as Stevie I still would find it gratuitous to have it in there and I would not be pleased. As a reader, I think it's just dandy.

I don't think it's wrong for Stevie to complain about it. Complaints are not censorship. They have a right to put it in the book and she has a right to say she doesn't like its insertion. I don't see either side as being in the wrong.

Michele

I agree that they can put whatever they want in their book, but I think you nailed it on the head with one word......gratuitous.

[jkmaletic]

Originally Posted by QueenStevie

Ann Wilson's latest attempt to dethrone Stevie won't work!

That made me chuckle. Good one.