Enchanted Disc 3 - Discussion

Dodfather · #1 08-11-2011, 03:09 AM

Hey guys

For the first time in ages I've dug out the Enchanted box set and seem to be in the mood to listen to the 3rd disc a lot so I thought I'd start a discussion thread.

What tracks do you think should not be there, or should have been and aren't etc?

Also, I'm really liking Thousand Days right now, apart from the horrid Time/Life lines. It's so cheesy and ott but I'm enjpoying it! I never listened to it much before, and reading the liner notes it seems to tbe the one song that doesn't have information as to where it's from. Which single was it a B-Side for or is it on a soundtrack?

darklinensuit · #2 08-11-2011, 03:20 AM

I think it was B-side to "Blue Denim", but I'm too lazy to check.
I don't mind the Time/Life part, but her voice sounds strained in parts of the song - like it wants to break free from the melody but can't (typical of that period).

I do have issues with the sequencing of the disc & its overall mish-mosh quality, like no thought was given to how different songs (and Stevie's ever-changing voices) sound juxtaposed against one another. All the same, my bigger problem is with the first two discs: OMBTRARS has no place on Disc 1 & belongs on the keyboard-heavy Disc 2, while "The Highwayman" is completely out of place on Disc 2 and belongs on Disc 1 for the same reason.

I'll add that I'm one of the few Ledgies to like Disc 3's versions of "Sweet Girl" and "Twisted", and also "Somebody Stand by Me". But again, the sequencing makes no sense.

- Jake

darklinensuit · #3 08-11-2011, 03:25 AM

Also, I was glad that "Cryin' in the Night" was scrapped for "Long Distance Winner", though both are great songs. Wish they would have included both.

I never got why "Gold" was included but not "Smiling Islands".

- Jake

Dodfather · #4 08-11-2011, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by darklinensuit

OMBTRARS has no place on Disc 1 & belongs on the keyboard-heavy Disc 2, while "The Highwayman" is completely out of place on Disc 2 and belongs on Disc 1 for the same reason.

I agree with both of these points but would have put One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star in Disc 3 - since it's the one that's supposed to have the B-sides, soundtrack cuts etc all gathered together on it.

I like God but it is an odd selection.

Josh2003 · #5 08-11-2011, 06:41 AM

I think the only song on Disc 3 that I skip somewhat regularly is "Somebody Stand By Me." I know that she didn't write it, but it just sounds unlike a "Stevie" song.

markolas · #6 08-11-2011, 10:44 AM

I think it was a wasted opportunity, basically.

There's no reason whatsoever for Gold & Whenever I Call You Friend to be on there, and her choice of demos (Twisted and Sweet Girl) to include was pretty lame. I could also do without Somebody Stand By Me. Take off those five songs and replace them with Julia, Forest of the Black Roses, If You Were My Love, China Doll, and Mirror Mirror, and it would be awesome.

tabruns · #7 08-11-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas

I think it was a wasted opportunity, basically.

There's no reason whatsoever for Gold & Whenever I Call You Friend to be on there, and her choice of demos (Twisted and Sweet Girl) to include was pretty lame. I could also do without Somebody Stand By Me. Take off those five songs and replace them with Julia, Forest of the Black Roses, If You Were My Love, China Doll, and Mirror Mirror, and it would be awesome.

I agree....I wanted more unreleased tracks on Enchanted.

Josh2003 · #8 08-11-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas

I think it was a wasted opportunity, basically.

There's no reason whatsoever for Gold & Whenever I Call You Friend to be on there, and her choice of demos (Twisted and Sweet Girl) to include was pretty lame. I could also do without Somebody Stand By Me. Take off those five songs and replace them with Julia, Forest of the Black Roses, If You Were My Love, China Doll, and Mirror Mirror, and it would be awesome.

I think the inclusion of Twisted and Sweet Girl made sense, at least from Stevie's perspective. Those are demo versions of songs she had already released. We know how guarded she (supposedly) is about her unreleased tracks, and, given her subsequent practice of pulling some of those older demos from the vault for inclusion on studio albums, I think it makes sense that she would not include them on Enchanted. Who knows...she might decide to put If You Were My Love on the next FM album

Point is, I would love to have had her put some of those songs on Enchanted...but as Stevie views them, they're still works-in-progress, and not "ready" to be released to the public.

diane_k · #9 08-11-2011, 12:33 PM

All in all I like it. It was great to hear some of those songs for the first time. As far as I'm concerned, the disc is over after Sleeping Angel. That modern day Rhiannon grates on me. I've always wondered how it would have been had Christine played and harmonized. Oh well, wishful thinking...

AnthonyMI · #10 08-11-2011, 01:07 PM

Smiling Islands is "crap". That is all. ;-)

fringed n fab · #11 08-11-2011, 03:50 PM

I like Gold and Long Distance Winner. Always listened to those on Disc 3.

Driving over Kanan
Singing to my soul
'Cause people out there turn the music into gold

*spins round in pretty skirt*

bombaysaffires · #12 08-11-2011, 05:13 PM

Gold and Whenever I Call You Friend were included because they were big hits. The collection is of her greatest hits.. I just think they were relegated to disk 3 because the never appeared on an actual Stevie album. Kenny Loggins once commented that once you record a song with Stevie, you kinda lose ownership of it because it becomes so identified with her.

They also serve to remind folks who might not know what a hot commodity she was back in those days and how everyone wanted to work with her. She was definitely the "it" girl and other artists knew that working with her could totally enhance their visibility and hipness.

AnthonyMI · #13 08-11-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

They also serve to remind folks who might not know what a hot commodity she was back in those days and how everyone wanted to work with her. She was definitely the "it" girl and other artists knew that working with her could totally enhance their visibility and hipness.

Kind of like Michael McDonald

fringed n fab · #14 08-11-2011, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Gold and Whenever I Call You Friend were included because they were big hits. The collection is of her greatest hits.. I just think they were relegated to disk 3 because the never appeared on an actual Stevie album. Kenny Loggins once commented that once you record a song with Stevie, you kinda lose ownership of it because it becomes so identified with her.

They also serve to remind folks who might not know what a hot commodity she was back in those days and how everyone wanted to work with her. She was definitely the "it" girl and other artists knew that working with her could totally enhance their visibility and hipness.

Have to agree totally.

Villavic · #15 08-26-2025, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Gold and Whenever I Call You Friend were included because they were big hits.

I love WICYF. Gold is a 1979 song and maybe because I was 13 I don't remember it, which I fdoubt, because I was already a radio listener and kept an eye on the charts. Don't know how well-known it was in other countries but I'm sure it wasn't a big hit around here. I don't remember if any of my friends recalled Gold when I bought and played Enchanted, but they did like the song.

I enjoy listening Disc 3 very much. Good songs content.